IRATA rope access

[Littletree]

It sure is an interesting one . The only thing I can see with this chestnut is that IRATA rope access company's don't ask ask for cs39 is because its a working of a rope and harness system they don't recognise or see as safe , if they asked for cs39 they would have to ask for 38 as well as 39 cannot be done without 38 then they would have to let the operators use the rope methods that we have been trained to used in Cs 38 and cs39 to carry out the work

 

because they don't allow the use of the rope system used in or 39 or 38 they cannot ask for those tickets otherwise they would be forced into allowing our methods

Even those the ticket is use of chainsaw from rope and harness .

 

Littletree

[munkymadman]

Does doing climbing hours on geo work count in your log book?

[JamesNI]

Yep, provided your working under a level three to sign your book of course.

[munkymadman]

Good to hear, want to move up to a level 2 so I can transfer over to NDT or rigging. any good companies to work for?

[Jamie]

Yep, provided your working under a level three to sign your book of course.

and provided you work off two ropes not just a shunt (ASAP / rocker or whatever else come along) line.

 

The level 2 is a good course, I'm looking for my 3 soon.

 

Jamie

[Guest Billabong]

I think it's because in the arb industry it's governed where you have to have the NPTC 38 & 39. Where as IRATA is a completely different governing body and therefore different requirements and different rules apply. Bearing in mind in rope access you have 2 ropes on 2 seperate anchors. The positioning in a tree with a chainsaw is completely different to working on a bank where you are on your feet so really you only need to be attached for work positioning, you wouldn't use rope access methods in a tree as you wouldn't use arb methods for rope access

[Jamie]

I thought cs 39 was one of the few legal requirements (the others being 30/31 and 38) for training not just a recommendation. If it is a legal requirement shouldn't there be a requirement for an IRATA style use of a saw from rope and harness. But then again i did do a lot of bush and coppice felling while on Geo squads, hardly technical saw work.

 

Jamie

[Guest Billabong]

Well it is effectively ground work as the IRATA opperative won't be working in a tree with a chainsaw. I really doubt a top handle would be used as there isn't a need for it as unless the work is required up a tree and if that was the case an Arborist would be called in

[JLA1990]

Thought id resurrect a thread rather than start a new one. We potentially have some works to remove vegetation on a highway embankment - mature trees spread throughout slope however we’re removing ground vegetation (bramble, nettles etc). It’s not perilous with drops just a steep slope, my question is if we were to tie into the mature trees at the top and work down would this be covered under nptc or is this within the IRATA sphere of works (no saws required, brushcutter/trimmers mostly. To stress it could be done without any ropes but would be abit slippy and slow. TIA

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

19 hours ago, JLA1990 said:

Thought id resurrect a thread rather than start a new one. We potentially have some works to remove vegetation on a highway embankment - mature trees spread throughout slope however we’re removing ground vegetation (bramble, nettles etc). It’s not perilous with drops just a steep slope, my question is if we were to tie into the mature trees at the top and work down would this be covered under nptc or is this within the IRATA sphere of works (no saws required, brushcutter/trimmers mostly. To stress it could be done without any ropes but would be abit slippy and slow. TIA

Firstly, and I guess dependent upon 'spacings' between the trees, it sounds like a Robo-flail might be a good option.

Secondly, what you've proposed = 'risk assessment' (irrespective of IRATA (I think.))

Good luck, and go safe.