My new toy.

[J The Tree]

We fell foul of HMRC on the use of red in our Mog. When the 2 compliance officers interviewed me (under caution) i pleaded ingnorance of the law and used several press articles, yours included, to back up my case, it was they who told me you were miss informed. Simlilar articles were also in Vintage Tractor and Farmers Weekly so i had every reason to believe you and others were correct.

[treequip]

Now I am confused.

 

Firstly I don’t see how you could use the article as a defence.

 

Secondly wrong about what exactly? Moreover the word of a couple of lower grade field officers does not over ride the information I had which came directly from HM Revenue and Customs Oils Policy, the same people you cited, except I did my research directly with the head of the unit. The policy unit reviewed and approved the article.

 

I imagine it was easy for (and in the interests of) the officers to de bunk whatever documentation you offered them without anyone there to offer a qualified response. (no offence)

 

For the record, that quote was verbatim and not at all out of context

 

Andy

Edited November 21, 2008 by treequip
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[skyhuck]

We fell foul of HMRC on the use of red in our Mog. When the 2 compliance officers interviewed me (under caution) i pleaded ingnorance of the law and used several press articles, yours included, to back up my case, it was they who told me you were miss informed. Simlilar articles were also in Vintage Tractor and Farmers Weekly so i had every reason to believe you and others were correct.

 

I bet you weren't prosecuted.

 

Just told to stop running on red?

 

There needs to be a test case as there are so many inconstancy's in this legislation.

[logger]

there is a HMRC memorandum on this updated in 08- no mention of arbwork-- just the usual agriculture , forestry and horticulture

[treequip]

I bet you weren't prosecuted.

 

Just told to stop running on red?

 

There needs to be a test case as there are so many inconstancy's in this legislation.

 

What inconsistencies are you referring to?

The revision of schedule 1 sorted things out in black and white.

The only inconsistency is the way people affected deal with it, some comply some ignore some hope to be able to talk their way out of it.

Andy

[skyhuck]

What inconsistencies are you referring to?

The revision of schedule 1 sorted things out in black and white.

The only inconsistency is the way people affected deal with it, some comply some ignore some hope to be able to talk their way out of it.

Andy

 

OK for a start, the definition of "goods" for the load carrying aspect.

 

If a farmer carry's straw or hay from his fields to his buildings, this not hire or reward, but he clearly benefits.

 

I have been advised that chips if taken from the job to my yard "in the course of my business" and I have not charged for the removal of the chips, they are not "goods" and it is not "hire or reward".

[Dean Lofthouse]

I give away my chip, so it can't be for reward apart from that warm glowy feeling you get from giving

[treequip]

OK for a start, the definition of "goods" for the load carrying aspect.

 

If a farmer carry's straw or hay from his fields to his buildings, this not hire or reward, but he clearly benefits.

 

I have been advised that chips if taken from the job to my yard "in the course of my business" and I have not charged for the removal of the chips, they are not "goods" and it is not "hire or reward".

 

The farmer is carrying his own goods and is exempt.

 

Whatever you are carrying is termed goods. Anything you take off a paying job is part of that job and therefore for hire or reward.

 

Andy.

[skyhuck]

The farmer is carrying his own goods and is exempt.

 

Whatever you are carrying is termed goods. Anything you take off a paying job is part of that job and therefore for hire or reward.

 

Andy.

 

I think your wrong, the chips become mine when I take down the tree and chip them.

[Dean Lofthouse]

Best way is to do away with red diesel all together and lower the price of standard diesel.

 

If I have to pay white diesel prices to drive my car for pleasure purposes then someone driving their luxury yacht down the river Taymar for pleasure should also have to use white.