art rope grab or petzl grillion??

[Joe Loggs]

Never heard of the trango cinch are they pricey anyone got a pic?

[Joe Loggs]

Just checked it out nice piece of kit and half the price of the art.can you feed rope threw just buy pulling the tail end or do you need to hold a lever?

[atree]

Art positioner to go with you SJ

[Joe Loggs]

Art positioner to go with you SJ

 

Sounds sexy don't it.

[WeeDee]

Sounds sexy don't it.

 

Or perverted!

[Dan Curtis]

With a few additions the grillon or art would do what the ce does for nowhere near the money. haven't tried the art, but a grillon works singled out so you can gain almost twice the length when you need it

[Pedroski]

Trango Cinch is supposed to be (AFAIK) used on dynamic ropes only.

[Joe Loggs]

used both.

 

find the grillion better as you control and adjust it with ease, a little resistance helps in some ways.

 

find the postioner a bit small and fiddlely and not as robust, although it can take the knocks i'm sure.

 

grillions are only £20 on ebay, never find a postioner on there......the cinch looks good fun but havent found a cheap one yet.

 

Where is these gri gri for £20 had a look can't find one for that price they are usually around 65. Do you get diffrent models?

[Dan Curtis]

You want the grillon not the gri gri. The latter is a proper belay device.

Though I suppose with a gri gri you could make your own grillon but it would cost more

[Wolfie]

I'd definitely go with Art. I used the Grillon for seven years but replaced it this year with a positioner. Great compact device that is just as good as a Grillon and a swivel positioner makes it better.

What really hacked me off about the Grillon was that Petzl insists that it has to be used with their rope (£35+VAT for 3metres!) for it to pass a LOLER test.