496 page doc for two days work

[treebloke]

Today I signed 11 pages of a a 496 page document for a job which will take us two days to complete and while I am HSE conscious I think this is a little bit OTT. This an all time first for me, my previous best was 115 pages and I thought that was big.

 

Who on here would or could read and understand some thing that big and complex.

[john p]

thats a serious amount of paper work!!was it thrilling reading?

[blazer]

Is this why only big companies can go for these jobs as they have a 'Geek' to sort it all out:confused1:

[butler]

Is this why only big companies can go for these jobs as they have a 'Geek' to sort it all out:confused1:

 

Or maybe they have a bit more patience and understand that these things need to get done.

[RobRainford]

was the work to remove trees just so they could print more of those reports?

[Hodge]

was the work to remove trees just so they could print more of those reports?

 

Ha,ha, good one rob!:-)

[TRADITIONAL LOGGERS]

Some contracts we had were 30 pages. Too much of this nonsence going on at present. Often unrealistic clauses hidden between pages.

 

We started giving the person involved a single page form to sign stating this contract overulled that in the event of a dispute. I told them if I had to spend much time reading office work instead of getting on with the real work would have to charge.

[gensetsteve]

Best one I had the last page said we had to send them a cheque for £100 to enable them to process our H&S paperwork. Because I am a bit thick I sent the last page with an invoice for £100 we did not get the job. The idea of all this guff is if anything goes wrong on the job your fault or not they will land it all back in your lap because you did not read the small print before you signed your life away.

[blazer]

Or maybe they have a bit more patience and understand that these things need to get done.

 

My day job is medical engineering where once if the childrens ward needed a spare infusion pump I could find and check one for them but now it's down to a infusion committee to agree the drug protocol, have the staff all had product training, plus loadsa other medical issues that seam to tread on alot of feet to sort out. Result some sick kid has to be transfered 25 miles because I can't let the staff use a later safer type of infusion pump because the infusion committee have taken 2 yrs to sort out if the staff can use it.

[butler]

My day job is medical engineering where once if the childrens ward needed a spare infusion pump I could find and check one for them but now it's down to a infusion committee to agree the drug protocol, have the staff all had product training, plus loadsa other medical issues that seam to tread on alot of feet to sort out. Result some sick kid has to be transfered 25 miles because I can't let the staff use a later safer type of infusion pump because the infusion committee have taken 2 yrs to sort out if the staff can use it.

 

Not really related......the point i was trying to make is this (as there seams to be a bit of hard felling agains bigger companies)

 

A big tree firm is a small tree firm that has grown, because they take time to look through said paperwork ect because they understand the importance of moving with the times. They then become more efficient and understand the paperwork betta. Not because they have unlimited pots of cash and employ "geeks" but because they have put in the hard work.