For David and Robarb

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Rob,

1. See my MTA case study on the relationship between adventitious beech rootlets and Laccaria amethystina. The rootlets don't contribute to the stability of the tree, they just "feed" the old tree to develop new foliage and start up seedlings with the aid of L. amethystina attached to the rootlets and "nursing" the roots of the young tree with its mycelium as an intermediate between the "mother" tree and its offspring (also see my Beech & Laccaria amethystina thread).

2. Yes, in the case of beeches temporarely loosing their central crown foliage, the moss develops at the base of the trunk, because of rain running down the trunk and light falling on the ground surrounding the tree base.

 

Do you not think that reiterative roots have the capacity to re establish a trees stability?

[Fungus]

Do you not think that reiterative roots have the capacity to re establish a trees stability?

 

No, they're only functioning as part of the strategy of old or sick (Meripilus) beeches to invest in their own seedlings before the tree slowly dies amidst its own offspring and is recycled and re-invested in the tree species specific food chain.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

No, they're only functioning as part of the strategy of old or sick (Meripilus) beeches to invest in their own seedlings before the tree slowly dies amidst its own offspring and is recycled and re-invested in the tree species specific food chain.

 

So you do not think that a trees desire to continue (entropy) is expressed in those new roots and that those roots will not continue to fuse adapt and grow as a normal root would?

[Fungus]

So you do not think that a trees desire to continue (entropy) is expressed in those new roots and that those roots will not continue to fuse adapt and grow as a normal root would?

 

How can these roots continue to grow after the tree dies because of old age and/or an infection with Meripilus or Armillaria ? Besides, beeches don't regenerate by epicormic growth.

Edited November 24, 2011 by Fungus

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

How can these roots continue to grow after the tree dies because of old age and/or an infection with Meripilus or Armillaria ?

 

what if dysfunction is not related to the pathogens, armillaria, kretzschmaria, g australe or meripilus giganteus?

[Fungus]

what if dysfunction is not related to the pathogens, armillaria, kretzschmaria, g australe or meripilus giganteus?

 

What's the difference ? We're talking about a beech in the final phase of its tree species specific life cycle trying to invest in passing on its own genes through its own offspring as its survival strategy.

And you're too quick citing me (again), it said : Besides, beeches don't regenerate by epicormic growth.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

What's the difference ? We're talking about a beech in the final phase of its tree species specific life cycle trying to invest in passing on its own genes through its own offspring as its survival strategy.

And you're too quick citing me (again), it said : Besides, beeches don't regenerate by epicormic growth.

 

All im saying gerrit is that given certain circumstances and a lack of pathogenesis veteran/ancient trees can regenerate and even the last bundle of vascular channels may generate a new life.

 

That trees by their very nature have the embryonic capacity to pheonix if conditions make it viable.

 

not citing you, having a conversation,

[Fungus]

given certain circumstances and a lack of pathogenesis veteran/ancient trees can regenerate and even the last bundle of vascular channels may generate a new life. That trees by their very nature have the embryonic capacity to phoenix if conditions make it viable.

 

Sure, some tree species can and some are even famous for it, but can you document that from beeches ?

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Sure, some tree species can and some are even famous for it, but can you document that from beeches ?

 

leave that thought with me for a few days, and i will try to find some famous trees from the u.k:thumbup1:

 

David, feel free to pitch in here.

[RobArb]

i have that one near me with the root in the central cavity, does that help?