Timber Stack Volume quibbles

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

I've got what I measure and the buyer as near as damn it agrees is 1168m3 larch stacked up (2.25H x 3.63L x 143m).

 

What we don't agree on is the conversion for air space. I've never really disagreed with the blue book at 70% for larch i.e. 817m3 unless for irregular stacking. Now the stack annoyingly doesn't have an even top but we've taken 100 measurements and average is 2.25m as above.

 

The buyer is reckoning on 55% c/v i.e 45% air space.

 

BS right?!

[Lumberjack Pad]

For an average stack (ie. not complete bent rubbish) it should probably be around the 65-70%.

 

Sounds like the buyer is trying it on.

[slack ma girdle]

Pass.

How much do you stand to lose if you go with the buyers verdict ?

[kernowstu]

always have worked 70% best of luck,sounds like a national firm

[Big J]

As a slight derail, what percentage would you go with for hardwood thinnings? Some slightly bendier stuff in there, 3-14 inches.

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

Pass.

How much do you stand to lose if you go with the buyers verdict ?

 

£thousands+

 

always have worked 70% best of luck,sounds like a national firm

 

exeter area surprise surprise

 

As a slight derail, what percentage would you go with for hardwood thinnings? Some slightly bendier stuff in there, 3-14 inches.

 

What species? Poker straight alder can be high i.e. 0.65, 0.55 to 0.65 is text book but u can guarantee the buyer will see more air in there than you! Personally, even with poorly stacked bananas I struggle with going into the low 50's...

[muldonach]

175 cubes is worth arguing about - how about sampling it - mark of a couple of 1 x 1 sections and measure the base area of all the timber inside the lines? Should not take too long and will indicate who is nearest.

 

Altenatively sell by weight? No arguing with a weighbridge ticket.

 

Cheers

mac

[gensetsteve]

I have always bought beech on 55% wood buts its a bit bendy compared with Larch. You could try meeting in the middle but you probably will still loose out. Cut the volume you sell to them down and spread your eggs and avoid them in the future.

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

I'm going to top diameter measure the face, the buggers won't be able to argue with that!

[slack ma girdle]

Stick to your guns and call there bluff.

Surely there must be some other buyers out there that are easier to deal with ?