competent climbers

[Johny Walker]

think safe,work safe, stay safe

[bob]

The climber installs a line from the ground to the desired anchor point. The line terminates in a pulley (but a biner will do) which acts as the anchor point.

 

The tail end of the line with the pulley is tied off at the base of the tree. Should the climber become incapacitated the ground staff can lower the entire rig from the base of the tree.

 

The system has it's limitations but it is worth considering, it's what we used for the ISA kids tree (back in the day) when we had several set ups in a small tree for kids to try. There was a higher likelihood of having to retrieve "little Johnny" so any sprog that got Elvis knee could be lowered in a trice and it didn’t matter if they had their little fingers death gripped around the climbing hitch. (That only happened once)

Please think very carefully before using a biner as an anchor point.

Certainly not recommended

not best practice

using a pulley or a ring loop that is a closed system fine but please dont use 1 biner

2 D,s opposite possibly but far from ideal.

I have come accross this before with the thought that a hyunchie or pole prunner could then cut the strop

[bob]

Very interesting stuff here. I teach CS38, and the time limit is 20 minutes to perform a rescue. Having said that, if a climber has a serious arterial bleed, then after about 3 minutes it'll be ENDEX!

 

But is there a set time limit for Assessment and real life

personally i have a competent rescuer on site not just a qualified one

I would not deem a climber a rescuer till i was happy they could have a fair go.

At the end of the day it,s you guys up there to feel happy

[onelab]

I don't know what everyone else thinks, but i personally feel that tree surgery/chainsaw related first aid should be mandatory with the cs38.

 

If you can administer some vital first aid before having to deal with the climber being over a crotch, with a tangled up rope etc.. this could make all the difference.

 

Admittedly I'm not the most knowledgeable with first aid, or first aid dangling from a rope. It may be completely implausible .