This months Essential Arb - Cut and hold

[tresrgr8]

So a very strong 16 stone man cannot have in one arm the same strength as a 7 stone women???

 

So following your argument, some lady arbs should not be allowed to use an 020 two handed, let alone a bigger saw.

 

strength hasnt got much to do with it.if your using it one handed the other hand is not where it should be to operate the chainbreak upon kickback (unless your reling on inertia).

[tresrgr8]

That's exactly why teaching is proposed ??

 

You shouldn't be in a position to "stand no chance" if a saw kicks back.

 

upon kickback and with the force it exerts the saw can spin upon itself,cartwheel and hit you in the same hand/arm you are holding it with,all before the chain stops spinning.ive seen it happen.it doesnt matter what position your in.

[mistahbenn]

Has that happened to you then TRSRGR8? Or someone you know? Ive never experienced that or heard of it happening.

[tresrgr8]

i have.ive also seen it happen with a groundsaw/rear handled saw being used two handed.here the violence of the kickback forced the rear hand off the saw,spinning it in the other hand and hitting the operator in the back of the left hand.

[Dean Lofthouse]

upon kickback and with the force it exerts the saw can spin upon itself,cartwheel and hit you in the same hand/arm you are holding it with,all before the chain stops spinning.ive seen it happen.it doesnt matter what position your in.

 

I keep repeating this over and over, the saw can only hit you if you put yourself in that position. If the saw is held so the bar is parallel to your forearm and kickback occurs, you have a good chance of being hit, if the saw is held at an angle to the forearm, the saw will miss.

 

Training training training....

 

 

i have.ive also seen it happen with a groundsaw/rear handled saw being used two handed.here the violence of the kickback forced the rear hand off the saw,spinning it in the other hand and hitting the operator in the back of the left hand.

 

Work positioning again and probably lack of experience.

 

Kickback, to the experienced operator, is a very very rare occurance, the last kickback I can remember was about 6 years ago, even then, I was aware the tip of the bar was near other stems and the risk was high so adjusted my position to avoid injury should it occur.

 

It really is basic stuff and I'm suprised at peoples attitude.

 

Your training tells you not to use the kickback zone, yet I use the kickback zone on the bar every single day when cutting up on the ground when cutting up stems, using the force to power the bar through the timber and make the saw work for me not me work the saw.

 

This is advanced chainsaw use, it is not using the saw incorrectly, just the same as using an 020 with one hand and cutting and holding are advanced chainsaw techniques and should be taught on advanced chainsaw courses

[Billy]

I keep repeating this over and over, the saw can only hit you if you put yourself in that position. If the saw is held so the bar is parallel to your forearm and kickback occurs, you have a good chance of being hit, if the saw is held at an angle to the forearm, the saw will miss.

 

Training training training....

 

 

 

 

Work positioning again and probably lack of experience.

 

Kickback, to the experienced operator, is a very very rare occurance, the last kickback I can remember was about 6 years ago, even then, I was aware the tip of the bar was near other stems and the risk was high so adjusted my position to avoid injury should it occur.

 

It really is basic stuff and I'm suprised at peoples attitude.

 

Your training tells you not to use the kickback zone, yet I use the kickback zone on the bar every single day when cutting up on the ground when cutting up stems, using the force to power the bar through the timber and make the saw work for me not me work the saw.

 

This is advanced chainsaw use, it is not using the saw incorrectly, just the same as using an 020 with one hand and cutting and holding are advanced chainsaw techniques and should be taught on advanced chainsaw courses

Spot on:thumbup1: