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chatting to a paramidic in the pub tonight and he said he would not use it and paramedics are not authorised to use it as it can create many problems especially with the heart ,although he can see the point in using it were necessary it has been proven in the batle field although generally they would not give a second thought on amputating severe trauma wounds were in the general hospitals they would try and save them!!

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They all have the same active ingredient, Chitosan which is basically treated shellfish shell (nice), not to clever if your allergic to shellfish but very good at stopping major bleeds.

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I carry quickclot which is a similar product. Its a last resort treatment, if dressings and pressure aren't stopping the flow THEN this gets broken out.

 

Again thats a very valid point....use as a last resort...something I might not have thought of in a true emergency situation. Cheers :thumbup:

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I bought some at the AA show back in July and everything on the packet sounded great, as soon as I showed it to my girlfriend she said 'Hm, funny how it says nothing about pain..'

 

That kinda stopped me in my tracks, it probably does hurt like hell to apply. Still, that's why Celox is usually sold to ruff tuff tree surgeons and soldiers. :biggrin:

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ive used it couple of times in Iraq on horrendous wounds, its fantastic stuff. it doesn't burn or hurt or anything like that. To remove is just a matter of flushing with water or saline. Bandages just dont cut it when sum1 blown apart by roadside bomb!!!

 

Excellent med kit is not a substitute for training!!!

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Hi,

 

Just to clear up a few points:

 

Celox doesn't make the surgeon's life difficult. He simply removes the Celox 'psuedo-clot' and washes the affected area once with saline. Then he/she gets about their normal repair job. If there are any residual amounts of Celox in the wound, the body breaks it down into naturally occuring sugars and metabolises them.

 

MattyF - your paramedic mate needs to do a bit of homework on his haemostatic agent, I think. Celox doesn't create any problems at all, and especially nothing to do with the heart.

 

Celox doesn't hurt when applied (older haemostatic agents used to generate quite a lot of heat) although putting direct pressure on any underlying inuries may sting a bit!!

 

Thanks

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I've never heard of this stuff but it sounds good.

 

Celoxman, are you a medical surgeon or similar? That's a genuine question as there is a bit of conflict of opinions posted above but you sound confident about this stuff.

 

Much appreciated.

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