Where do you see arb heading in the next decade?

[Mesterh]

I for one have jumped aboard the Hamas train and I'm riding it all the way back to the garden of Eden. How many times have you been doing a small site clearance and sat down for lunch and listened to the birds singing, seen pockets of blue sky through the leaves above your head that seem to jingle in the breeze, and thought to yourself " is there anywhere i would rather be right now". Loads of times?

 

Well pass it on. Go for picnics instead of mcdonalds. Refuse point blank to "top" that 35ft sycamore and call the person a vandal if they get someone else to do it. Re-cycle all your waste, we now only put our green bin out once a fortnight because we sort our "waste". Offer your services to a local primary school to do a talk on trees, science and ecology.

 

Good points apart from this bit "Refuse point blank to "top" that 35ft sycamore and call the person a vandal if they get someone else to do it"

 

That doesnt keep the bank manager happy plus its no different than topping a leylandii.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I for one have jumped aboard the Hamas train and I'm riding it all the way back to the garden of Eden. How many times have you been doing a small site clearance and sat down for lunch and listened to the birds singing, seen pockets of blue sky through the leaves above your head that seem to jingle in the breeze, and thought to yourself " is there anywhere i would rather be right now". Loads of times?

 

Well pass it on. Go for picnics instead of mcdonalds. Refuse point blank to "top" that 35ft sycamore and call the person a vandal if they get someone else to do it. Re-cycle all your waste, we now only put our green bin out once a fortnight because we sort our "waste". Offer your services to a local primary school to do a talk on trees, science and ecology.

 

You see, some people CAN see it, and good on ya frank, believe me, the rewards for your efforts will come, they wont make your pockets fat but wealth comes from within and not from fat pockets.

[Frank]

Good points apart from this bit "Refuse point blank to "top" that 35ft sycamore and call the person a vandal if they get someone else to do it"

 

That doesnt keep the bank manager happy plus its no different than topping a leylandii.

 

I don't care how happy the bank manager Is. They are all oxygen thiefs. I'm going back to bartering and growin my own veg, hunting my own meat and making my own clothes.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I don't care how happy the bank manager Is. They are all oxygen thiefs. I'm going back to bartering and growin my own veg, hunting my own meat and making my own clothes.

 

i appreciate the sentiment, but we dont have to go to those extremes, but something inbetween.

[Mesterh]

I don't care how happy the bank manager Is. They are all oxygen thiefs. I'm going back to bartering and growin my own veg, hunting my own meat and making my own clothes.

 

A good life that would be Tom.

 

 

I bet you wont get that.

[tommer9]

Darren i SOOO hope you arent on the wind-up, as this thread has really touched on some of the things that are in dire need of change in our screwed up society and world, driven by capitalist selfishness, and a refusal to do anything that doesnt benefit oneself to the detriment of all around us.

 

Oh- and i cant remember who wrote it, but it has only been the last 150-200 yrs that we as a race have raped the earth with little or no forethought of the consequences. It is grossly inaccurate and uninformed to assume otherwise. Before the onset of the industrial revolution, and moreover the inFernal combustion engine, we lived far more in harmony with the world around us, leaving far less of a footprint than we do now, with almost zero waste in comparison to modern man. We had no reliance on petrochemicals, and hence none of the foulness that comes from the use of them. People were far more in-tune with their surroundings, and much more in harmony with the earth, and above all much less wasteful.

One can find all the reasons under the sun to get a job done, cut a tree down or whatever it may be, but greed and selfishness have got alot to answer for, on a personal level to a global scale, and guess what- the ones who really suffer are those who are still in touch with the earth, who leave no footprint and use no more than is needed, giving back as much or more than they took in the first instance.

 

Where do i see arb going? If we carry on the way we all are, making petty excuses for our foul modern ways then i see it going down the pan with (hopefully) the whole of the most damaging animal on the planet- man(un)kind.

 

If bees die out, then life on earth wont be far behind, and they are dying by the colony.....

Edited May 22, 2010 by tommer9

[Frank]

Haha. I'm speaking with slight jest, but I fully agree with all the principles and it's not just with trees and nature, it's the whole disposable society we live in, no-one seems to care or think. Everything is made to throw away and there is too much waste bwe need to go back to basics and start teaching our children about the natural world we are destroying make them appreciate what we are destroying.

 

 

Did you notice how masterblaster reacted to the coronet / monolith threads? Hats because he is fortunate to live in a land mass that has masses of forests and wildlife. We don't. We need to start planting new trees and preserving the ones we have. Arb is going ecological, bigtime. I'm on board. How many times do you see a sign written tree wagon and the first thing in the list of services is "tree felling" followed by "dismantling" followed by "stumpgrinding". Somewhere down that list you may see "pruning". This is wrong. First should be "large/veteran tree management" or "tree/plant health care".

[tommer9]

Until we kill the modern capitalist dream and replace it with something that doesnt scream 'ME ME ME ME ME SOD THE REST OF YOU ' then we will be gong down the pan fast.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Darren i SOOO hope you arent on the wind-up, as this thread has really touched on some of the things that are in dire need of change in our screwed up society and world, driven by capitalist selfishness, and a refusal to do anything that doesnt benefit oneself to the detriment of all around us.

 

Oh- and i cant remember who wrote it, but it has only been the last 150-200 yrs that we as a race have raped the earth with little or no forethought of the consequences. It is grossly inaccurate and uninformed to assume otherwise. Before the onset of the industrial revolution, and moreover the inFernal combustion engine, we lived far more in harmony with the world around us, leaving far less of a footprint than we do now, with almost zero waste in comparison to modern man. We had no reliance on petrochemicals, and hence none of the foulness that comes from the use of them. People were far more in-tune with their surroundings, and much more in harmony with the earth, and above all much less wasteful.

One can find all the reasons under the sun to get a job done, cut a tree down or whatever it may be, but greed and selfishness have got alot to answer for, on a personal level to a global scale, and guess what- the ones who really suffer are those who are still in touch with the earth, who leave no footprint and use no more than is needed, giving back as much or more than they took in the first instance.

 

Where do i see arb going? If we carry on the way we all are, making petty excuses for our foul modern ways then i see it going down the pan with (hopefully) the whole of the most damaging animal on the planet- man(un)kind.

 

If bees die out, then life on earth wont be far behind, and they are dying by the colony.....

 

Its true, and the frightening thing is that as the worlds population grows exponentialy (in twleve months time there will be 90million more people on the earth!) and the "scientific industrial) "progress" grows a faster and faster momentum it will see us do more damge in the next decade than in the last century!

 

sure we got away with it till now, but we are teetering on the edge of a very steep cliff, we can take two steps back, or fall to our total and complete oblivion. We wouldnt be the first major dominant species to be wiped out, its happened before, and if were not carefull, history will repeat.

[Mesterh]

Well your all going to think this is negative but I heard the same thing 15 years ago when people already in the game before me said the same thing about the environment and how arb would play a big part and now is the time to get involved.

 

I think in the current economic climate it will take a back seat again.