Any phsycologists on here

[PeteB]

Ah, Mr Lofthouse? I'm the tax man that you voted in today. As the new chancellor of the exchequer I will need nearly all of your winnings from the lottery to fund another holiday camp for waistrels who cannot be bothered to get a proper job. Meet the new cabinet!

[armchairarborist]

fancy starting and organising a community planting group sort of thing? there was one near me but all they did was try to get grants for pathways.. needs somebody who can organise things and motivate all the bunnyhuggers to help for free or maybe pay to come and plant. i know someone who has for years grown trees from seed/cuttings from his own garden and used to supply colnevalley tree society, dont think it would be hard to find landowner willing to have a few trees raised on their land... just a thought as its something i kinda fancy

[arbclimber]

Very interesting thread Dean, we all think like that at some point. Maybe you aren't getting enough satisfaction out of what you do. Sometimes its hard to know what you want, often you think you know what you want and it turns out to be something completely different.

 

As an example, I have always thought that making money, lots of money, was what made me happy. Now I may just be going soft, but recently i've got much more out of work than just money.

 

I will try to explain by giving the example of myself and my brother. We are both equally intelligent and ambitious. He works for a huge company, and at 31 years old, earns more per year than an average house is worth. Infact last year he got a Christmas bonus of equal value to your last years profit. Last month he made / saved his company in excess of £40 million.

 

I have recently started offering my marketing/ business services to small companies and the self employed. Last month, I did some work for a self employed bloke who was having trouble and hardly able to pay his bills. I charged him £ 2000 and have guaranteed he will make at least £800 extra every month, if not, he gets his money back.

 

I think guaranteeing a bloke who is currently earning about £15 k a year, an extra 800 a month, is so much more significant than saving a huge multi-national £ 40 mill. I have made a real difference to this blokes life, and probably that of his family, and I am genuinely happy about it.

 

I would have, until recently thought that the satisfction was coming from the £ 2000 I got for 2 and a bit days work. Now i'm not so sure.

 

Sorry to waffle on, hope you see what i'm saying.

[Stephen Blair]

dean we are all Lumberjacks, we should be felling 200ft redwoods and driving 12 litre duallys to work and wearing tartan shirts, BUT we are not, we are fiddling about in back gardens with conifers and bushes and having to spoon feed our customers.

 

I break my jobs into categories now, so it helps my brain stay relatively satisfied.

money makers and bill payers = boring crappy wee jobs

helping someone out and doing a good deed jobs

stuntfell ego boost macho jobs, these are usually underpriced so i can get them and feel all cool.

 

depending on my moods depends which jobs i do mate and depending on how much money i have depends on how quick i get to do the brain numbing jobs lol

[Dean Lofthouse]

I actually get enjoyment from seeing others enjoying themselves as part of my efforts, I think many people do.

[Kev Stephenson]

how about assisting with cadets or scouts or similar. That might feed the need to help others???

[Dean Lofthouse]

how about assisting with cadets or scouts or similar. That might feed the need to help others???

 

The feeling is far beyond dib dib dib Kev

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

This is something like I have to invent something to radically change things or come up with something to change peoples lives for the good type feelings ????

 

Yep. Totally. In fact, the fact that you don't actually know what it is precisely reinforces the matter.

 

Winston Churchill for example might have been born with a silver spoon in his mouth but on paper the odds were stacked against him; pretty much absent parents but a damn good nanny. Point is he had one hell of a sense of destiny and had no idea what it was for until the 30s. This sense was not linked with his privaleged background or the idea he would "attain" as his Father had. Much of what he felt and said fell on deaf ears with good reason at first but of course, what eventually came his way was entirely prophetic. No accident; pure purpose...

[Dean Lofthouse]

sense of destiny ...

 

Thems the words I was looking for

 

A really strong wierd sense of destiny ?? A feeling that your were put on this earth to do something, make a difference, acheive something huge ??

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

Thems the words I was looking for

 

A really strong wierd sense of destiny ?? A feeling that your were put on this earth to do something, make a difference, acheive something huge ??

 

Yes, yes and yes. Huge? - then it is huge. Perhaps not in somes opinion, but if your gut knows it, believe it. This stuff goes deeper than deep. Best thing is to start digging - right down to the root.