James Lovelock. (9pm Wed 14th BBC 4)

[Albedo]

This is the one I mentioned to Hama but others might be interested.

 

Tv Guide says - How James Lovelock came to see the earth as a holistic self-regulating system.

Edited April 14, 2010 by Albedo

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Corr blimey almost forgot! good shout paul, laters back at 10!

[armchairarborist]

too tired for all this tonight, took 3 attempts to find bbc4, nite all.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Tired! my glutes are killing me and im shatered, but work of the mind means i can sit on my arse and double my work day!

 

lol

 

What an absolutley amazing guy lovelock is, a true genius of our times, An einstien a darwin, a newton, he thought, "inclusional style" outside the box, he thought about "natural nieghbourhoods" on a scale few ever grasp let alone master.

 

for 150 years man has waited for a darwinian genius, and here he is.

 

To quote from my piece in the "inclusional thread " I am gaia gaia is me, we are one and the same and together we are eden"

 

I owe you one for the heads up paul,

[Albedo]

Glad you caught it Hama, and glad you liked it, I thought it had your name written all over it, so to speak

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Glad you caught it Hama, and glad you liked it, I thought it had your name written all over it, so to speak

 

You couldnt have been more right! i was transfixed for the full hour!

 

i could listen to that man for weeks on end!

[Ian H]

Hi Hama/Paulbrash

 

:dito:What a fantastic programme, should have been prime time BBC1 IMO.

 

Long live out of the box thinkers, shame they have to be seen as mavericks, but good for him for not being trounced by the system:thumbup1:

Edited April 15, 2010 by Ian H
Sorry for spelling your name wrong paulsbrash

[Bundle 2]

Long live out of the box thinkers, shame they have to be seen as mavericks, but good for him for not being trounced by the system:thumbup1:

 

He WAS "trounced" as you put it though mate. For some considerable period his work was left unpublished and unpublishable by the system. The "system" refused to even consider the work. The reason, mostly that it did not have the "package endorsement" of a system slave so to speak.

These academics have no shame....Fickle lot. A testament to the mans humility, professional vision and ideology that he did not simply flick two fingers at those wishing then to bestow their awards on him.

Cheers Paul!

[scotspine1]

The scientific establishment didnt like Lovelock cause the Gaia theory is anti-human. For Gaia, human life has no more meaning than any other animal life. Scientists, like Christians, like to believe that man is above all other animals. Its also not a new idea, ancient chinese philosophies were talking about the Earth as a self regulating system thousands of years before Lovelock.

[bareroots]

there are few truely new ideas, granted, but what lovelock did was to flesh out a 'nice idea' of which there are thousand (all supported by belief) and give it a credance with verifiable fact. Therefore taking it from the realm of 'nice ideas' and bringing it into the realm of truth (dodgy ground i know) (perhaps observable/apparent truth, or understanadable form would be a better)