Rigging krab idea.

[AHPP]

5 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

I was by the coast a while back and drifted into a boat equipment shop. 
Picked up this krab for no real reason. 
 

It has been knocking around my climbing gear for a few months, then I had the idea of using it for rigging and it’s absolutely brilliant. Really easy to cinch in the tree and uncinch on the ground, wide gate, easy to open with a thumb though it’s a strong spring action. 

Heavy, so throws nicely into forks difficult to reach. 
Fixed eye (as you can see) so neat and tidy. 
Rated at 900kg so not for mega stuff (neither is the rope of course)

 

It really is very good, wish I’d thought of it years ago. 

Hugely pleasing. Strong aesthetic. An eternal vibe. 

[Mick Dempsey]

2 hours ago, kram said:

I've not used it for rigging but its awful for tying knots or coiling up, extra bulky. A cinched biner is the best way to use it?

 

 

It’s not great for holding a knot when it’s not under pressure, but splicing in a krab is 30 seconds work.

It coils fine once it’s been properly used and stretched, then it loses its manufacturing ‘memory’

[kram]

Yeah very easy to splice 3 strand.

 

 

That brings an unrelated question. If one looks in shops at rigging ropes, all of the spliced onces have very large eyes - much bigger than a biner. Whats the intended purpose or reasoning?

@AHPP ?

 

The reason I ask, I might splice one end of this,

 

One end for biner and slings, other end for knotting. Any reason not to be a normal small eye like a climbing rope?

[AHPP]

Good question. Don’t know to a certainty. Did find out a while ago but answer obviously wasn’t important enough to remember. It might be slightly more shock absorbent with a bit more length in the eye? Possibly convention for if you’ve got a connector with a bigger bend radius spliced in. Or some kind of hard eye. Possibly even a hangover from such a convention, that now just tells you it’s a rigging rope rather than a tight-eyed climbing rope.

 

Right. Look it up. See how close I was. 

Edited 2 hours ago by AHPP

[Mick Dempsey]

I think it’s more that a climbing line HAS to have a tight splice.

I asked HBs to splice a climbing line with a big splice and it arrived with a mouse’s ear.

[kram]

@AHPP I have tried to look it up and I have asked a few shops too...

 

@Mick Dempsey Thats odd, I've asked them before about having a larger splice to fit some climbing item, but I didnt order it.. they said it was ok.

 

[Joe Newton]

3 hours ago, AHPP said:

Good question. Don’t know to a certainty. Did find out a while ago but answer obviously wasn’t important enough to remember. It might be slightly more shock absorbent with a bit more length in the eye? Possibly convention for if you’ve got a connector with a bigger bend radius spliced in. Or some kind of hard eye. Possibly even a hangover from such a convention, that now just tells you it’s a rigging rope rather than a tight-eyed climbing rope.

 

Right. Look it up. See how close I was. 

I read/heard somewhere that the extra rope in the eye was to mitigate the increased potential for shock loading.

 

I can't really see how an extra foot or so of relatively static rope would make much if a difference though