Fires, illegal or not in these circumstances?

[Steven P]

3 hours ago, Les Day said:

I called the local environmental health yesterday to ask for their opinion. They said no problem so long we continue to be considerate but really my question is.

 

Just a thought I had while I was out, they said 'no problem' but is that a 'no problem - it is all within the law' or 'no problem because we don't have the resources to do anything about it'?

 

 

 

Now if you could be processing the wood to a product, different matter I think... charcoal anyone? (but a whole new can of worms I suspect)

 

[GarethM]

1 minute ago, Steven P said:

 

Just a thought I had while I was out, they said 'no problem' but is that a 'no problem - it is all within the law' or 'no problem because we don't have the resources to do anything about it'?

 

Now if you could be processing the wood to a product, different matter I think... charcoal anyone? (but a whole new can of worms I suspect)

The real question is what did you ask them.

 

Oh we have an old women down the road from the farm complaining about fires, or did you actually say were burning garden wastes we get paid to take away from a field my mate Terry knows down the dog and duck ?.

[oakandmaple]

13 hours ago, Steven P said:

So... a matter of scale I know... but I wonder how The Scouts and so on manage at their camp sites with cooking and camp fires? Assuming they are not desolate wastelands with every tree burnt up by now, and most of the wood is brought to site... Likewise bonfire nights at community bonfires, I'd assume the scale is similar to what you burn. Remembering from my younger days we used to burn logs and things brought to site specifically to cook on. Or is the difference commercial and not commercial.

 

2nd question because I don't know if the farmer brought waste from several fields to that one burning spot, is that still considered to be 'on site'?

 

Perhaps to keep her sweeter you might need to burn smaller fires more frequently?

I think the scouts’ can argue they’re burning wood fuel not waste as it’s for heat and cooking?

[Muddy42]

So bits of tree and plant are classed as waste, that's madness?

[GarethM]

13 minutes ago, Muddy42 said:

So bits of tree and plant are classed as waste, that's madness?

The definition of waste is something that can't be reused.

 

What use is burning trees and plants in a field, other than being Waste ?.

[openspaceman]

23 minutes ago, GarethM said:

The definition of waste is something that can't be reused.

No it is something that has been discarded by the holder under UK environmental laws. It could still have a use by doing some work on it, such as arb arisings discarded by the producer but then reused as compost or cut and split as logs USW.

[Muddy42]

15 minutes ago, GarethM said:

The definition of waste is something that can't be reused.

 

What use is burning trees and plants in a field, other than being Waste ?.

 

Yes its just that burning organic matter feels fairly natural to me. Its just accelerated composting (but I suppose it can create smoke which is probably where the issue lies).  Isn't the only way a licenced waste disposal company can get rid of organic matter to burn it or compost it?  Shouldn't there be a difference between dumping organic waste and dumping rubbish (man made stuff)?

[Steven P]

... so it is not a waste product, you are producing organic soil improver (https://www.rhs.org.uk/soil-composts-mulches/wood-ash-using-in-garden) though you will need to get the farmer to spread some of it on the fields or take it home to the garden - it is part of the process to create an end product.

 

and because I was curious there is a market for it too:

3L Organic Wood Ash Fine Powder Garden Plant Fertiliser

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Edited September 20 by Steven P

[peds]

Burn small enough bits and then put it out before completion, and you are creating biochar. Absolutely essential in the most fashionable compost blends these days.

[Steven P]

Bugger, I am going to have to change my compost habits - don't want to go all hippy-fashionable rather than just dumping-ashes-on-grass-clippings unfashionable