Arb digger

[Stephen Blair]

The double wheeled larger transit vans can.  
All Iveco Daily’s can, tippers too.  

[monkeybusiness]

1 hour ago, Stephen Blair said:

The double wheeled larger transit vans can.  
All Iveco Daily’s can, tippers too.  

Plenty of double wheel transits can’t though - I was going to buy a double cab tipper that had been factory built with unglazed rear doors opening into a toolbox. It could only tow around 2 tonnes unfortunately, so it was ruled out. 

[Stephen Blair]

1 hour ago, monkeybusiness said:

Plenty of double wheel transits can’t though - I was going to buy a double cab tipper that had been factory built with unglazed rear doors opening into a toolbox. It could only tow around 2 tonnes unfortunately, so it was ruled out. 

That’s why it said Van and not tipper. 

[Conor Wright]

7 hours ago, monkeybusiness said:

Yeah, the plated weights are often ‘optimistic’, especially once a quickhitch etc are fitted. Real-world ‘ready to work’ figures are probably best not researched too much….

Ive wondered before does the plated weight refer to the dry weight of the machine? Add a tank of fuel, a tank and hoses full of oil and possibly a battery on top and it's already over before you add buckets, grabs, breakers and 50 kgs of mud from the previous site!

I do stand to be corrected on this, I've just never bothered to check the facts for myself. 

I was pulled overweight some years ago and fined. Empty 12x6 ifor tipper with a hiab fitted on the drawbar. I was within gross weight but the distribution was wrong. 160kgs over rear axle load. I was told I could adjust the weight and go on. I told them I could hardly grind the hiab off the trailer at the weighbridge so the bitch wrote the ticket there and then.

[Lillywhite]

Takeuchi tb230 with tiltrotator, grab & a bit of cab protection on the weight bridge is heavier than you think 

[Slicer Dicer]

9 hours ago, monkeybusiness said:

Any idea what the 230 actually weighs? They look massive next to my E27 (which is already on the limits for towing). 

Yeah as Mark says 2880kg, I have the TB228 which is exactly the same plated weight. That's operating weight whatever that means so assume fully fueled and bucket etc? It's overweight lets be honest😂. On paper I can just about get it legal. Tow it with no buckets on a 1054 and it can't be that far off. Thing is I really feel the difference that extra 200kg makes when compared to a 2.6t Volvo/Kubota/yanmar etc, the Takeuchi is much better planted. I don't think it the weight so much as the way it's really set back on the slew ring with a good slab of steel hanging far out the back.

 

[Slicer Dicer]

17 minutes ago, Lillywhite said:

Takeuchi tb230 with tiltrotator, grab & a bit of cab protection on the weight bridge is heavier than you think 

What trailer is that on? Reckon you have nearly 300kg extra over a standard TB230 with just a quickhitch and no buckets..🤔 with a 1054 trailer that brings you up to 4100kg😬

Edited January 6 by Slicer Dicer

[Lillywhite]

I move it on a 14 ton beavertail lorry

i gave up trying to keep under 3.5 ton towing years ago 

[Slicer Dicer]

1 minute ago, Lillywhite said:

I move it on a 14 ton beavertail lorry

i gave up trying to keep under 3.5 ton towing years ago 

Ah fair enough. How come you stick with that size machine then if you have a lorry?

[Lillywhite]

It’s a good size for arb work, it’s small enough to get into gardens & down footpaths but big enough to actually get something done in a day. It fits on the lorry with the chipper so turn up stack timber, chip the rest & back on the lorry & home because round my way if you leave any kit on jobs it won’t be the in the morning

i have been thinking about a 6 tonner but it will sit in the yard a bit whereas the 3 tonner is out everyday