Chicken or the egg

[Excels1or]

21 hours ago, Mightbe_lost said:

Hi all 

 

So let's see what lovely replies I get this time. 😉 

 

Just a quick question really about gaining experience,

 

I'll be gaining my cs30/31 tickets after xmas and in the meantime I've been asking around for any groundie/help work I can take on.

 

Im offering myself up for free as I am brand new and just greatful for the opportunity, but alot of places are asking that I have experience already.

 

How do I gain experience if I need experience to work?

 

Anything else I can do to boost my chances?

 

Or should I wait until I have my tickets so I'm a bit more useful?

 

Sidenote: knock off the 'Don't do it and the job is shit' messages, thanks👍 

 

To add:

I should have said.

 

I've emailed several big, small and one man band companies and asked in a few arb/forstry fb groups.

 

 

Just a thought, but have you tried speaking to a few folk on social media? There's quite a few female owned/led Arb businesses out there that are doing well. Maybe try and get a bit of networking going?

[Steve Bullman]

10 hours ago, Sviatoslav Tulin said:

I said before you have no chance to get that type of work , even if someone employs you ,that will not last, this is toxic masculinity work end of story.Good luck to you any way!

Think you’re living in the past a bit there mate, there’s no shortage of women in Arb these days, and some of them are doing pretty good out of it

[Sviatoslav Tulin]

50 minutes ago, Steve Bullman said:

Think you’re living in the past a bit there mate, there’s no shortage of women in Arb these days, and some of them are doing pretty good out of it

My ground person for last 2 years ! But she’s only one I ever seen in arb !

Edited November 15, 2023 by Sviatoslav Tulin

[Mightbe_lost]

45 minutes ago, Sviatoslav Tulin said:

My ground person for last 2 years ! But she’s only one I ever seen in arb !

Obviously never been on Instagram. Search  #womeninarboriculture tag. You'll be surprised 

[Sviatoslav Tulin]

4 minutes ago, Mightbe_lost said:

Obviously never been on Instagram. Search  #womeninarboriculture tag. You'll be surprised 

Didn’t know that there’s still adults exist ,who believe things seen in instagram . Let’s ask lads on this forum how many of them are girls and how many of them employ one at the moment photo in full USED PPE AND A USED CHAINSAW IN STUDIO PLS.

[Mightbe_lost]

8 minutes ago, Sviatoslav Tulin said:

Didn’t know that there’s still adults exist ,who believe things seen in instagram . Let’s ask lads on this forum how many of them are girls and how many of them employ one at the moment photo in full USED PPE AND A USED CHAINSAW IN STUDIO PLS.

🤦🏻‍♀️ wow, just wow mate. You are either a complete troll or live under a rock. 

[Sviatoslav Tulin]

Just now, Mightbe_lost said:

🤦🏻‍♀️ wow, just wow mate. You are either a complete troll or live under a rock. 

You just answered your own question,why you can’t get what you want ! 

[Scotty2809]

2 hours ago, Mightbe_lost said:

🤦🏻‍♀️ wow, just wow mate. You are either a complete troll or live under a rock. 

Or both....

i'm sure you have the shoulders to take the sexist comments.

From my own personal experience, not in ARB but within the engineering industry, i'd rather have a female apprentice/engineer with an attitude to work than a 'road man' turning up stating how he's done it all at his other jobs. Only to find out he's full of 5h1t.

 

My suggestion would be to phone a few of the local companies, stating that you are trying to gain some experience within the ARB industry, and you are looking to offer your services for free. In return, all you ask is that they are willing to give answers to questions and give you the opportunity to show them you'd be a great asset to the team. Also, which would be a great addition to bring humor and break the ice a little, state that you would also have a stash of biscuits, and a flask of tea at hand.

 

i'm not sure on your personal circumstances with employment, but offering to be free anytime is always advantageous. 

 

i'm not sure if any of this helps, but just take this one bit of advice above all. DO NOT GIVE UP ON YOUR DREAMS!

 

Good luck and stay safe

[Mightbe_lost]

5 minutes ago, Scotty2809 said:

Or both....

i'm sure you have the shoulders to take the sexist comments.

From my own personal experience, not in ARB but within the engineering industry, i'd rather have a female apprentice/engineer with an attitude to work than a 'road man' turning up stating how he's done it all at his other jobs. Only to find out he's full of 5h1t.

 

My suggestion would be to phone a few of the local companies, stating that you are trying to gain some experience within the ARB industry, and you are looking to offer your services for free. In return, all you ask is that they are willing to give answers to questions and give you the opportunity to show them you'd be a great asset to the team. Also, which would be a great addition to bring humor and break the ice a little, state that you would also have a stash of biscuits, and a flask of tea at hand.

 

i'm not sure on your personal circumstances with employment, but offering to be free anytime is always advantageous. 

 

i'm not sure if any of this helps, but just take this one bit of advice above all. DO NOT GIVE UP ON YOUR DREAMS!

 

Good luck and stay safe

Thank you for your kind comment and fantastic advice.

 

Luckily atm I'm working part time so can afford to give a a day or two away.

[openspaceman]

9 minutes ago, Scotty2809 said:

i'm not sure on your personal circumstances with employment, but offering to be free anytime is always advantageous. 

As an ex employer I would give anyone a try but even if they offered to work for free they would get the minimum wage even if I terminated the trial at the end of the first day.