Training / Books: Tree Species & Characteristics Relevant to our Industry & Climbers

[Steve Bullman]

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[Jamie Jones]

9 hours ago, AA Teccie (Paul) said:

I couldn't agree more...and happy to contribute (one of which would be for Norway Maple (Acer platanoides) and potential weak forks / unions in main stems and branch connections - perhaps more of a surveyors issue, as can lead to failure, but one that climbers should be aware of too for anchor point selection or when felling etc. (the inclusion of botanical names is intentional as I think professional arbs should know their 'Top 10' broad-leaves and 'Top 3' conifers, at least the genera ('Surname' ) but perhaps that's a different database.))

 

If anybody particularly wanted to progress this through the Association, firstly you'd have to be prepared to get involved (AWG - arborist working group) and it would take time...considerable time (obviously Steve's proposal could probably come online very quickly and be added to as we go.)   

 

"Best wishes all, and I hope you're safe and well...and stay so."

 

Cheers Steve, hope you're well.

Paul (Arb Association)

 

Thank you Paul.... I hope that I have provided a good idea for a very valid publication that may help keep some new and experienced climbers safer

Edited December 21, 2020 by Jamie Jones

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

28 minutes ago, Jamie Jones said:

Thank you Paul.... I hope that I have provide a good idea for a very valid publication that may help keep some new and experienced climbers safer

Hi Jamie, "indeed", and 'thank you', it would appear that Steve is already "on the case" here so I too look forward to what he produces giving us all the opportunity to contribute based on our collective knowledge and experience. 

 

Regards,

Paul

Edited December 21, 2020 by AA Teccie (Paul)
extra coupla words to thank Jamie too

[Treeation]

4 hours ago, AA Teccie (Paul) said:

I quite agree that experience / competence = wisdom and knowledge but hope this can be shared.

 

A simple database for 

-Species (common / botanical name AND (vital) photo (in and out of leaf ideally - or links to RHS / WT etc.) 

-General characteristics - broadleaf / evergreen . wood strength / brittleness / common structural defects / common fungi associations

-Climbing issues: anchors / footing etc.

-Rigging issues: 

-Felling issues:  

Other:

 

Sure this would be of value. 

I think there should also be general info on tolerance to pruning, as Jamie said before, timing of pruning, guidance on which pruning methods might be inappropriate for mature specimens etc...This is a great opportunity to improve the tree biology knowledge side of things (which sadly is lacked in our industry) to so should be included. 

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

51 minutes ago, Treeation said:

I think there should also be general info on tolerance to pruning, as Jamie said before, timing of pruning, guidance on which pruning methods might be inappropriate for mature specimens etc...This is a great opportunity to improve the tree biology knowledge side of things (which sadly is lacked in our industry) to so should be included. 

The (ISA) CODIT Principle helps in respect of...CODIT effectiveness and timing of pruning, in terms of tolerance there's two aspects to this, one being species general vigour, e.g. Lime (Tillia spp) being general very tolerant...and Beech (Fagus spp) much less so, and two being individual vitality (health) which is for the Arborist to assess and prescribe. 

All good stuff.

 

Cheers

Paul

 

[Steve Bullman]

I'm wire framing this so all these comments are super helpful

 

Keep them coming. We can make this really useful between us

[Steve Bullman]

[Alexthetreesurgeon]

Great idea. 

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

Hi Steve, great start...I would avoid blocks of text wherever possible, keeping info succinct and bullet-pointed etc. (sorry, the 'page' you pasted was probably illustrative.)

 

Perhaps a rubbish idea (I'm sure some will agree), and obviously subjective, but is it worth rating the common species 1-5 based on general caution levels...Ash being 4/5 given inherent brittleness, ADB and Innonotus hispidus etc. with Oak being 1...just a thought.

 

Thanks ..

Paul  

[Steve Bullman]

3 minutes ago, AA Teccie (Paul) said:

Hi Steve, great start...I would avoid blocks of text wherever possible, keeping info succinct and bullet-pointed etc. (sorry, the 'page' you pasted was probably illustrative.)

 

Perhaps a rubbish idea (I'm sure some will agree), and obviously subjective, but is it worth rating the common species 1-5 based on general caution levels...Ash being 4/5 given inherent brittleness, ADB and Innonotus hispidus etc. with Oak being 1...just a thought.

 

Thanks ..

Paul  

That could get very clunky and confusing Paul, so many variables. Would be interested in how you think that could work though?

 

Yes the image is illustrative. I'll be wanting to include plenty of text, but i'll probably move it further down the page and keep the key info at the top. The tabs will allow people to jump straight to the relevant section without having to scroll down a long page also.

 

Tackling the user interface is going to be the tricky part. As for getting all the info together, well that could drag on for years! A worthwhile project though