what do you use to connect your pull belt?

[Paul Smith]

 

You do mean one of these http://gear.sherrilltree.com/iwwidb.pvx?;multi_item_submit

 

used them on a standard flip line, good bit of kit! I now use a 3M Swedish strop with two 3 way Krabs. 1 attached to a mallion and the other larksfooted on a prussik. I prefer the rigidity of the Swedish as opposed to standard floppy flip lines. Dont think you can get mechanical grabs for such a large diameter cable?

[BTS Equip Ltd]

To all those interested in this thread.

 

The advice given in respect of the karabiner was:

 

To be wary of the Mongoose style 3 way (we have had reports of the gate sticking)

 

The Springlock style 3 way can be difficult to operate with one hand

 

Both of these were demonstrated in the showroom during the customer's visit.

 

No advice was given with regard to not using 3 way karabiners for climbing. This is a legal requirement.

 

Two methods of attaching the steel core flip line were discussed. It is a necessary requirement to have a 'weak' link in the equipment for the purposes of aerial rescue. It is a sacrificial item that can be cut with a blade.

System 1 - Micro grab to a mallion rapide, connected to a 3 way karabiner using a webbing 'soft link'.

System 2 - Micro grab connected to a 3 way karabiner using a 200mm webbing link. (Picture posted earlier in this thread)

These soft links must be CE marked and rated to 22kN or more.

Note: this is not the only way of attaching to a flip line.

 

Regarging karabiner lubrication, steer clear of using WD40 unless there is no alternative. WD40 can (over time) damage internals on some karabiners which will lead to premature failure during routine LOLER inspections. Graphite powder is the perfect solution, however PTFE lubricant also suffices.

[Andy Collins]

Thanks BTS for the clarification on this matter, and welcome to the forum! :wave:

[Vertical Lmit]

200mm softlink too long 60/80 better as less chance of accidently severing the weak link. Have been climbing on Jonsies set up for years works really well and allows the micro assender to twist freely.

Have Geko 3 way on link

[bob]

200mm softlink too long 60/80 better as less chance of accidently severing the weak link. Have been climbing on Jonsies set up for years works really well and allows the micro assender to twist freely.

Have Geko 3 way on link

 

i think you will find 200mm is the smallest redily avaiable i had some 150mm ones done and after the stiching was not realy long enough as the stitching did not flex enough

i dont think a 60 or 80mm would be anywhere near long enough to go through any attachment IMO

[cerneARB]

i was the customer..hello BTS..you were helpfull..thanks a lot.

[Vertical Lmit]

Try proclimber the sell a 100mm soft link. Bridge gap with crab and micro grab is about 80mm. They are doubled over for extra strength.

[BTS Equip Ltd]

Folks, to clarify the setups mentioned in our previous post. The 200mm 'soft' link is used without a mallion rapide. When this is doubled through the micro grab, the effective length is shortened to 100mm. The shorter soft link has to be attached to the micro grab using a mallion rapide. This gives an overall length of 140mm. See attached image for clarification. Don't forget, you can always use a prussik as the 'soft' link.

[High Scale]

I don't use a soft link, tried it but found it to have a little too much play for my liking, I use one of these.

 

Twisted clevis.

 

Of course, nobody else should ever, ever use one.

[Steve Bullman]

sherrills sell them in their arb catalogue.