Trailer weight

[dumper]

Anyone know what the maximum permissible unladen weight of a trailer is before it requires testing / plating?

[openspaceman]

45 minutes ago, dumper said:

Anyone know what the maximum permissible unladen weight of a trailer is before it requires testing / plating?

I've not had to deal with this but I think it's over 1020kg if it's gross weight is over 3500kg. Basically if it's on over run brakes it doesn't require testing.

[Justme]

Registration & testing for sub 3500kg trailers is currently under consultation.

[dent]

I believe sub 3.5 tonne have to be registered onto an o licence and f they are to be used in conjunction with a vehicle larger than 3.5 tonne dont know if they have to be tested and plated to do this

[Justme]

20 hours ago, dent said:

I believe sub 3.5 tonne have to be registered onto an o licence and f they are to be used in conjunction with a vehicle larger than 3.5 tonne dont know if they have to be tested and plated to do this

Currently sub 3500kg do not need to be registered or tested at all even if used with a C1 or C vehicle.

 

You might need to be registered as an operator.

[openspaceman]

3 hours ago, Justme said:

Currently sub 3500kg do not need to be registered or tested at all even if used with a C1 or C vehicle.

 

You might need to be registered as an operator.

There is one type of trailer under 3.5 tonnes gross weight that needs an MOT that's if it is over 1020kg unladen AND has brakes operated via the vehicle service brake.  As you say then it would also be subject to operator's licence.

[Justme]

17 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

There is one type of trailer under 3.5 tonnes gross weight that needs an MOT that's if it is over 1020kg unladen AND has brakes operated via the vehicle service brake.  As you say then it would also be subject to operator's licence.

That's a situation I must admit I have never considered or looked through the regs to see if thats right or not as why would you? I think the assumption is that sub 3500kg trailers will be over run type.

[openspaceman]

1 hour ago, Justme said:

That's a situation I must admit I have never considered or looked through the regs to see if thats right or not as why would you?

Some while back we discussed 5th wheel outfits of 7000kg gross train weight, these have to have powered brakes and it seems unlikely they can come in under 1020kg thus they would require both annual test and an operator's licence.

1 hour ago, Justme said:

 

 

I think the assumption is that sub 3500kg trailers will be over run type.

Which is why I stated over run trailers were exempt earlier in the thread as they cannot exceed a MAM of 3500kg

[Justme]

12 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

Some while back we discussed 5th wheel outfits of 7000kg gross train weight, these have to have powered brakes and it seems unlikely they can come in under 1020kg thus they would require both annual test and an operator's licence.

Which is why I stated over run trailers were exempt earlier in the thread as they cannot exceed a MAM of 3500kg

Its not the trailer that is O licence registered its the trader or business. The type of brakes on the trailer won't affect registration. Unladen weight does. Again I must admit I have not looked at how a 5th wheel set up would be affected by the O licence and the regs as so few are out there that are based on a cat B / BE licence. I would also have to consider if the applied load part of the trailers unladen solo weight is counted or not. Interesting puzzle.

[dent]

On 16/06/2018 at 00:20, Justme said:

Its not the trailer that is O licence registered its the trader or business. The type of brakes on the trailer won't affect registration. Unladen weight does. Again I must admit I have not looked at how a 5th wheel set up would be affected by the O licence and the regs as so few are out there that are based on a cat B / BE licence. I would also have to consider if the applied load part of the trailers unladen solo weight is counted or not. Interesting puzzle.

Yes but each vehicle and trailer has to be registered onto the o licence 

When you get your o licence it will say what you are entitled to run it will all be linked in to the size of your premises and you can have trucks removed as a punishment by the traffic commissioner