Tree Surgery Business Sale

[Murdock]

3 minutes ago, WesD said:

Which bit is wrong?

 

Selling kit has a greater audience?

 

Potential buyers will more than likely be from your area hence smaller audience?

 

You have built the relationships with your customers it is your reputation they are paying for?

 

Tech savvy world web sites, logos and business cards are ten a penny?

 

Im intrigued to hear which is wrong?!

 

For what it is worth I was offering advice not being negative.

 

If you think hunk this place is full of primadonnas why post it on here? (Strange)

 

MacDonalds pretty sure you mean McDonalds and to be frank only ever eaten there nothing else. 

 

You have a  turnover of 70k and 40k of that is profit now my math says that leaves 30k operating costs now you say the staff will stay customers know THEM well, implying more than one now what are you paying them as well as fuel, machinery downtime, insurance vehicle and business  etc etc etc

 

lets say staff of 2 minimal number on 14k each (McDonalds wage) that leaves 2k to spend on everything else . . . . Doesn't look like a good venture this? Either that or the books are wrong and the profit is less hmmm. 

 

Hows that hat for a negative break down? 

 

Wes, if you wish to get a further breakdown I have sent you a messaage, or you can contact the agent who will be administrating the sale, its all legit.

[Murdock]

7 minutes ago, WesD said:

Which bit is wrong?

 

Selling kit has a greater audience?

 

Potential buyers will more than likely be from your area hence smaller audience?

 

You have built the relationships with your customers it is your reputation they are paying for?

 

Tech savvy world web sites, logos and business cards are ten a penny?

 

Im intrigued to hear which is wrong?!

 

For what it is worth I was offering advice not being negative.

 

If you think hunk this place is full of primadonnas why post it on here? (Strange)

 

MacDonalds pretty sure you mean McDonalds and to be frank only ever eaten there nothing else. 

 

You have a  turnover of 70k and 40k of that is profit now my math says that leaves 30k operating costs now you say the staff will stay customers know THEM well, implying more than one now what are you paying them as well as fuel, machinery downtime, insurance vehicle and business  etc etc etc

 

lets say staff of 2 minimal number on 14k each (McDonalds wage) that leaves 2k to spend on everything else . . . . Doesn't look like a good venture this? Either that or the books are wrong and the profit is less hmmm. 

 

Hows that hat for a negative break down? 

 

If you are genuinely interested you will be able to view the profit from the tax returns filed to HMRC.  This is available to people who are genuinely interested in making an investment, not to any Tom Dick or Harry 

[WesD]

Like I said I offered advise to draw some money in as you want to leave the country my intention was not to p1ss up your back or come across as negative about your business just my tuppence on widening your audience for a return. 

 

Your little speech in response to me earned a cheeky one in return I am no where near you geographically have no intentions of moving and am doing very well on my own but thanks for offering. 

 

Hope you sell it as you intend to. 

[Murdock]

Thanks Wes, I did expect a mainly sarky response, but you gotta get word out haven't you.  The first company I worked for was owned by two individuals who paid 15k each for the company, they worked for peanuts and has shit gear, I do okay and have good gear, and this was 15 years ago.  

[Marc]

On 07/08/2017 at 21:30, WesD said:

I think you would be better selling your kit and getting what you can back money wise that way. Your audience would be greater as people will travel to buy a van chipper saws and cutters etc etc however the business sale has a target audience of your area and frankly the reputation is yours not the businesses the phone numbers and contacts are worthless to someone with no rappor with those customers and logos web sites etc well that ain't worth much in this tech savvy world. 

 

Sorry for being blunt but if you are in a rush for some money return, sell the assets and forget the business. 

I was going about it in a roundabout way, the advert gives no indication of what the assets are worth so for me the turnover makes no sense, a good truck, chipper, the tools and a yard would be worth the asking price alone.

The client address book and company image isn't worth much at all.

 

it would be like me as a freelance climbing arborist saying, I am going to retire I earn 45-50k a year working pay me 40% in one lump sum and I will give you me contacts. After all when I am gone they will still need a climber.

i would have more luck selling my assets.

 

Sorry just my view.

[Murdock]

4 minutes ago, Marc said:

I was going about it in a roundabout way, the advert gives no indication of what the assets are worth so for me the turnover makes no sense, a good truck, chipper, the tools and a yard would be worth the asking price alone.

The client address book and company image isn't worth much at all.

 

it would be like me as a freelance climbing arborist saying, I am going to retire I earn 45-50k a year working pay me 40% in one lump sum and I will give you me contacts. After all when I am gone they will still need a climber.

i would have more luck selling my assets.

 

Sorry just my view.

Mark, the reason I am not giving these details away is because these details are only available to people who are genuinely interested in buying a tree surgery business, the link is available for the agent who would be administrating the sale.  

And it wouldn't be anything like a freelance climber selling his contacts, you wouldn't "have" to climb to start with.  

Yes you are giving your view, but you view is full of assumptions, and isn't a good view at all, what is being sold is a business that has assets and makes money, with room for expansion, excellent reputation, well known name locally, over 400 recorded happy clients, you wouldn't have to climb, I have months when I cant be arsed to climb, if I wasn't doing a degree in my spare time I could easily earn much more, if you are interested in more details or if anyone is the can pm me, I can them talk to them personally and show them my tax returns, and the other details.  It doesn't have to make sense to you, but if you want it to pm me I'll give you my number and I'll explain.  But lets just say, I could go out just pricing and still earn a decent wage, that's the next natural step, I personally like to be on the tools, but age takes its toll, whoever takes the company over would find themselves in a good position.  

[Murdock]

On 07/08/2017 at 22:58, IRE David H said:

WesD its possible a large tree company might (or might not) buy the business to expand, like a certain forum member with blue equipment

Thanks David H, just seen this.

[Steve Bullman]

Any takers yet?

[Backpain]

What was the outcome? Did you manage to sell the business? Be interesting to know.

The only critisism I would make is that you didn't state how you generated your leads.

For example if you sell a product (lets say straws) and have a website which generates those sales you have a business which has a value. Its evidence of sales, not peoples phone numbers that really matter.

Its like Amazon but smaller.

You don't seem to state this, its like you're selling you word of mouth business or goodwill which is worthless to anyone else.

Just wondering.

[WesD]

10 minutes ago, Backpain said:

What was the outcome? Did you manage to sell the business? Be interesting to know.

The only critisism I would make is that you didn't state how you generated your leads.

For example if you sell a product (lets say straws) and have a website which generates those sales you have a business which has a value. Its evidence of sales, not peoples phone numbers that really matter.

Its like Amazon but smaller.

You don't seem to state this, its like you're selling you word of mouth business or goodwill which is worthless to anyone else.

Just wondering.

I’d imagine he’s going to say your a pain in the back!