Retired Climber

6 minutes ago, Stubby said:

Are you saying I don't think that ?  Or the buildings were there before the trees ?

I'm saying the tree could be trespassing, the building can't. Well, technically a building can trespass, but not in this case. 

3 minutes ago, JLA1990 said:

Can you link these? 
 

Nothing I love more than reading some big butch men swinging handbags online 🤣

It's embarrassing really; the only time this forum is busy is when there is an argument of some description kicking off. 

3 minutes ago, john87 said:

 

No, that is the law now.. Here is a quote from the act itself. By the way, this act is the basis that enables paypal to AUTOMATICALLY refund a buyer, [and take the money back off the seller] UNLESS, the seller has signed PROOF of delivery.. Not really fair to sellers, but that is the law now, for better or worse..

 

Anyway, the act..

Delivery of goods

 

 

(1)This section applies to any sales contract.

 

 

(2)Unless the trader and the consumer have agreed otherwise, the contract is to be treated as including a term that the trader must deliver the goods to the consumer.

 

 

(3)Unless there is an agreed time or period, the contract is to be treated as including a term that the trader must deliver the goods—

 

 

(a)without undue delay, and

 

 

(b)in any event, not more than 30 days after the day on which the contract is entered into.

 

 

(4)In this section—

 

 

(a)an “agreed” time or period means a time or period agreed by the trader and the consumer for delivery of the goods;

 

(b)if there is an obligation to deliver the goods at the time the contract is entered into, that time counts as the “agreed” time.

 

 

 

(5)Subsections (6) and (7) apply if the trader does not deliver the goods in accordance with subsection (3) or at the agreed time or within the agreed period.

 

 

(6)If the circumstances are that—

 

 

(a)the trader has refused to deliver the goods,

 

 

(b)delivery of the goods at the agreed time or within the agreed period is essential taking into account all the relevant circumstances at the time the contract was entered into, or

 

 

(c)the consumer told the trader before the contract was entered into that delivery in accordance with subsection (3), or at the agreed time or within the agreed period, was essential,

 

 

then the consumer may treat the contract as at an end.

And, THAT, is the law.. Great if you are a buyer, totally crap if you are a seller..

john..

John. 

You are basing most of your arguments on a misunderstanding of the law and how it works, but lets completely ignore that. For the sake of this thread, lets presume that you are (legally) 100% right. 

What are you actually gaining form being right? Skyland have a product you want, and you need to work with them to work out how to get it to you. Their couriers can't really work with the delivery window you propose, so find another way. 

You are right, businesses selling to consumers on the internet are easy to screw over, as all the protection is for the consumer. However, using these rights doesn't get you the product. 

My advice is to stop acting like a little b!tch, and just accept that it would be better for everyone concerned if you picked up the phone and worked out the best way for Skyland to get the product to you. 

7 minutes ago, Stubby said:

iI would have thought the buildings were " trespassing " onto the roots of the tree if the tree was there first ...

Nope. 

You come across as a pain in the backside. If you had ordered from me I'd have just refunded the payment and blocked your IP from my website. 

The very first thing I would do is ask for proof that the tree is causing the damage. They cannot expect you to do anything without furnishing you with proof. 

5 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

I don't but I suppose I could get a login, wouldn't that just give me a name but no contact details?

It should have the name and address of the current owners. If they don't live at the property they can have a 'care of' address I think. 

2 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

The property is empty, I don't know who owns it. My guess is a builder has bought it, done it up and is moving it on.

If you have a login for the land registry you can find out who owns it in about 2 minutes. 

9 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

Aye I know, I want this cottage and I've upped my offer once to the asking price, now the agent has come back saying someone else as also bid the asking price and do I want to up my offer. I've no way of finding out if that's the truth or not.

My advice (FWIW) is don't take it personally, and don't get dragged into any silly games. Work out what the most you are prepared to pay is, offer that, and make it clear that it's your very best offer. They either accept it or they don't. 

Good luck with it Tom. It's a useful looking machine and you also seem to have a useful bunch of qualifications to your name.

Don't sell yourself short though. 300 quid a day isn't a lot of money if you are supplying expensive machinery. 

1 hour ago, topchippyles said:

Sorry Les; can you find something else to do for a bit? The grownups are talking. 

3 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

Hmm, looking back over the comments and unfortunately you are correct. 🤣 

 

I got it wrong and apologise.  

 

 

No worries. I thought you had either got the wrong end of the stick or you were being an argumentative b'stard. I favoured the latter, but accept the former. 🙂

15 hours ago, eggsarascal said:

Good spot, I was sitting here in silence contemplating whether the fecking estate agent is trying to rip me off over a cottage I'm trying to buy.

The answer to the question "is the estate agent trying to rip me off?" is yes; always yes. 

59 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

No, for the reasons I listed above. 🙄

 

Primarily the huge disparity between supply and demand with demand significantly outweighing supply. 
 

What will be eroded is the value of my mortgage. The higher the inflation the lower the purchasing power of our currency meaning that my £200,000 mortgage is worth less and less making it easier to pay off. 

You do realise it's ok to admit you quoted the wrong person, or misunderstood a point don't you? I agree with what you are saying, it just makes no sense as you quoted my question to Dan in your original response in a way that looks like you are answering the question. 

Anyway, I'm glad we got that sorted. 😁

Let's face it, it might be sensible to pay a contractor to do it, but there's not a man on this forum who wouldn't use the excuse of having that land to buy himself a tractor. In fact, I'd imagine most of us would consider buying the land, just so that we had an excuse to buy ourselves a tractor. 

Just now, trigger_andy said:

That makes no sense at all but ok. 🤣🤣🤣

Do you think house prices will be eroded by inflation? 

 Unless Tom is useless with the machine, that has got to be a bargain. You could get a lot of work done with that for only 300 quid. That's less than I would charge to turn up for the day without a fancy machine (and without a barista set), mess about a bit, argue with some neighbours and then bugger off early. 

27 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

How so?

Dan said he thought inflation would erode house prices, I asked "how so?", and you gave an argument which appears ( to me at least) to support the opposite (that house prices will not be eroded). 

32 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

Because demand for housing far out strips supply by a huge factor. So much so that there will still be a mass of buyers who will not only weather this coming storm but will hardly even notice it and will still pay record prices. The low end of the market might suffer a bit but I envision the worst that will happen is they sell for their asking price and not significantly over like we see today. 
 

I believe the BoE is doing away with stress testing Mortgage Applicants. Couple this with 30 year plus or even multi-generational Mortgages and potentially prices will even increase and not fall at all. 
 

Also, the “rich” are getting richer and the poor poorer. Buy-to-let still seems to be a huge cash generator. Couple that with an ever increasing asset value that’s of a limited quantity I think this segment will increase significantly as will rents. If you can afford it buying a place to rent out will be a cracking Pension Pot. 

That seems to be an argument for the opposite. 

1 hour ago, Dan Maynard said:

Inflation will erode house prices, should be a good thing if they come down in real terms without a crash.

How so?

6 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

Yes and that trait is what meant our ancestors survived but we have never got beyond that economic competitiveness to progress any further than a cell of yeast pickling in its own excrement.

 

In fact it only needs us 2 billion wealthiest to perish as  we are behind 90% of the pollution.

 

Even so there would still need to be some intervention to help nature out and rapidly reduce CO2 because all that coal we burned was produced at a time  many organisms that decayed vegetation had not evolved.

Thanks to evolution, we are all the decedents of ancestors who leveraged their greed and selfishness to make sure they got to pass on their genetic material. An exceptionally good strategy to build a strong species, but an abysmally bad strategy to sustain one long term. 

The problem we have, is that if humans were a lot more intelligent we'd be fine; if we were a lot less intelligent we'd also be fine. We are trapped in the middle ground in which we are too intelligent to live a sustainable life, but not smart enough to know how to live how we want to, whilst remaining viable long term. 

13 minutes ago, sime42 said:

It's a bleak outlook for us all, that's for sure.

As always, Climate Change and destruction of the natural world dwarf all other current concerns.

The thing is, it doesn't matter how much wealth those in the upper echelons, the Oligarchy, possess; it'll be of no use when the world is burning and/or flooding to death around them. They live physically on the same planet as the rest of us lowly beasts. The irony is that the majority of the wealth that they're amassing is derived from human activities that are causing the aforementioned catastrophe. The stupidity of man. 

 

 

The psychology behind why we (as humans) do this to ourselves, and the planet on which we live, is both fascinating and depressing, in equal measures. Some of the ideas are seen as fairly complex. However, it can be summed up in a fairly basic manner; Humans are selfish and short sighted, and the planet would be a lot better off if most of us perished. 

23 minutes ago, Woodworks said:

Riots in the street I would imagine.

 

Many will literally not be able to afford heating and electric. Seems almost unimaginable in one of the richest countries in the world but as the article Stere shared points out the wealth in western counties  is incredibly unevenly distributed. 

Maybe those who have been spending time contemplating rioting and generally feeling sorry for themselves should have done a bit of overtime and bought some BP shares. 

House prices in this country have gone absolutely mad. We've actually been looking in Devon as it's so much cheaper than where we are now. 

If that tree is 35 ft high the picture is very misleading. 

I would say the foundations have much bigger problems than the tree.