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I always found mine to be super bouncy, making a long ascent on SRT was like getting up a bungee cord. Also milked about 1.5m of sheath off the end of a 60m length, found it to be very baggy.

I thought that if there's no CE mark then there will be no LOLER cert? Do you have any info or resources to share about using non CE stuff as someone self employed? I'd assumed that HSE didn't really differentiate between employees and subcontractors for this kind of stuff. Not to say that you wont be totally fine using the RRP pro that isnt CE marked, enough folk have used and are still using the OG RR, just that if SHTF you might find it hard to justify using it for an insurance claim etc. and it's good to be fully informed.

I think the SRT "Single Rope Technique" accronym came from caving, where it is a single rope, but from where we borrowed lots of hardware and techniques. This was then ammended to Static or Stationary in the Arb accronym to avoid confusion and differentiate between MRS/Moving Rope Systems (which in turn is a clarification for "DRT" which most people take to stand for "Double Rope Technique", though this is just a single rope "doubled"). Or at least that's my understanding of it Single Rope Techniques (SRT) | StartCaving.co.uk WWW.STARTCAVING.CO.UK Descending into deep, sheer vertical pits is one of the most thrilling aspects of caving. Rope work is what allows cavers to...

...for which SRT is ideal! As you have no rope drag from passing over branches and stems, and you can use redirects for great work positioning, amongst loads of other reasons

LANTRA do an Award in SRT that will be pretty comprehensive for the basics. Myerscough run it as a 2 day course with assessment on day 3 for £450, which is a bit pricey but will be belt and braces for being properly certificated, and a good place to start if you're completely new to SRT. Again, another chance to try lots of kit and work out what you do and don't need to get started. I've not heard any feedback of the course at Myerscough though. You might find someone else running a 1 day Intro course. Otherwise I'd recommend familiarising yourself with the basics, get a Ropewrench and a knee ascender set up, and then using SRT for access with a base tie. You'll see the benefits immediately, and can then work the tree from an MRS system. In terms of stuff on youtube I found the Treekit SRT Intro series really useful and well produced (for an arb youtube video) LANTRA Level 3 Award in Stationary Rope Work Positioning and Rescue | Myerscough College WWW.MYERSCOUGH.AC.UK LANTRA Level 3 Award in Stationary Rope Work Positioning and Rescue

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I'd get in contact with a few local companies and see if you can get a shift dragging brash as a labourer, just to see if you like the work. It won't show you everything about tree work but might give you a taste. The Barony college in Dumfries do several courses that are broad and will give you a good grounding in various aspects of the industry, they're pretty heavily foresty based if that's a direction you'd be interested in going in. If that's not an option or doesn't appeal then the quicker but more expensive route in is to just pay for short courses to get your chainsaw tickets. Get some PPE and then see if you can pick up shifts here and there. With tickets and your own kit you can expect to be paid pittance for the first bit, just seems to be the way things are in the central belt ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ . Not suggesting it's any better anywhere else...

Looking for a stump grinder to rebuild as a project. Anything in any state considered but preferably self-propelled if not tracked.

It is a double slic pin which is less likely to pop out. It's nice for a quick alternative to the maillon, such as a base tie for ascent, or advancing your anchor or a simple redirect, but I've not worked off one for the whole tree.

Ah I did mean UltraO, I'm always getting those 2 mixed up

PerfectO are good, you might want to pop a rubber stopper on the far side to stop everything riding round

So was the Singing Tree Quickie CE marked? I ended up getting the Notch one for some reason which isn't CE marked, but remember that one had the mark and t'other didn't though they were the same price. Can't seem to find the Singing Tree one for sale anywhere, and no idea when the notch one will get it's CE marked.

+1 for getting a longer 60m rope, makes traversing or redirects much more doable. I've got 50m of Sterling HTP and it's surprising how often it's only just long enough after a base tie on a large tree. Maybe add a maillon or anchor ring for a base tie and/or canopy anchor. I wouldn't say you're over egging it, it's good to focus on the ascent aspect of SRT systems as that's where you'll see the most benefit initially. Other benefits will come as you gain more experience and knowledge of the system. Gear for redirects can easily be found in stuff you'll already have (HMS karabiner, sling, e2e hitch chord etc.) (At first read of your post title I legit thought your wife was leaving you and you were buying some SRT kit to cheer yourself up...)

Wow talking about the bend radius of the gyro takes me way back to the beginning of the thread. What a journey it's been.

I had wondered if it was because you're adding an extra component in, an extra link in the chain that can potentially fail. The benefits conveyed but the use of the gyro far outweigh the risk of failure imo. I'm going to try either a Petzl Open with some rubbers to keep the gyro away from loading the wee plastic section, or the Courant Odin.

Thankyou for your interest in my balls but I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

Ok so a gyro on a semi-permanent connection such as the DMM shackle pictured above or Petzel Open ring would be compliant also?

I was under the impression that it wasn't kosher to run 2 rope systems through a single attachment point to the harness (such as a Gyro) and had started to write a justification for using it, but going back to the ICOP and draft Technical Guide 1 I can't actually find anything stating that you can't do that...In fact I found the opposite - In the draft technical guide 6.6.1 b) states "The same point on the harness may be used to connect the primary and backup systems". Has this changed? Or where am I getting the 2 seperate connections to harness thing from?😵

I'd put this in the employment section too, climbers looking for work will be going there rather than here.

Is this for recreational use or for tree work? If for tree work then you'd be better off using a more versatile system, incorporating a descender like the TAZ Lov2 to capture progress and then be able to descend (replacing the Croll/Basic ascender in your picture), and that way you'd be rigged for rescue. Look into knee ascenders, much more efficient than frogwalking. Also why use 10mm line? The new ICOP doesn't actually seem to mention a minimum diameter for rope (just a MBS which a lot of 10mm cords surpass) but most ascenders/devices for industrial and work use require a minimum 11mm diamter rope. Lots of useful info and resources on youtube if you can't get on an intro to SRT course at the moment.

I was actually told at college thickness of the bottom of the thigh just above the knee - quite a bit more variation there amongst folks...

Interesting, looks very similar to the ISC Rocker but the Rocker user guidance states that full body harness should be used.

Wouldn't you need a dorsal attachment on a full body harness for the ASAP or any other type of fall arrest device? Fine if you're dangling off the side of a skyscraper washing windows but probably a bit annoying in a hairy lime tree... AFAIK rope access anchors are tested regularly using HYDRAJAWS or similar, again something that's fine for permanent anchors on buildings that are returned to regularly but less practicable for tree work.

Kong do a nice bag that is probably pretty robust as designed for canyoneering, with a mesh front to help ropes dry. Comes with some internal storage and a wide enough opening that flaking the rope back in won't be annoying. 60m of 11.7 might be a squeeze though... Lirung - Bags - KONG WWW.KONG.IT Rope bag developed for rope transport in canyon