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One other really useful tool to consider is the Woodchuck Dual for larger logs that are too heavy for some of the saw horses to take or simply just too heavy to lift onto a sawhorse.

Really very simple to assemble. The four legs slip in to the main body and a knurled knob on each leg tightens them up The vertical box sections just slide in and are held in position by gravity which makes it easy to take apart and put in a car boot I would recommend a length of 2x6 slipped under the frame to protect the chain from the metal when you have cut through the logs. I would think that it holds more logs than the Truncator

This is a comment from a bloke who watched the video above and relates a bit more to the forces involved with the D7 and an inch diameter steel cable Back in the 80's I was in the airborne infantry and a few of us were offered a chance to cross train in vehicle recovery. It was a three week class and I learned a lot about recovering every type of vehicle you can imagine, and in every type of situation you can imagine. The one thing that stuck out that I will NEVER forget, was seeing the damage done to an M88 tank retriever when it's main winch line broke. The main winch is a 70 TON single line pull, and I believe the cable was 1.5 inches and I think there was 300 or maybe 400 feet of it. When the line snapped, it came right back and hit the M88 head on like a punch, and it knocked a hole RIGHT THROUGH SEVERAL INCHES OF STEEL BULK HEAD. You could see where it actually melted the steel as it forced its way through. No one was hurt, but it scared the crap out of every man there. The instructor said this is what happens when you don't do the math when figuring mire factors, block and tackle friction factors, knowing real vehicle weight, and enough pulling power to winch every sick whore in the world off her piss pot at the same time. Seeing that made me even nervous to pull too hard on my boot laces when tying them up. When we winch now, my pucker factor is always so tight you couldn't pound a pin up my ass with a jackhammer. I really know what can happen and it's scary. Whether or not these tests are real world, the damage a broke wire rope will do, is real world. Keep up the great work. Show less

Everyone has slightly different problems to overcome. In my case the one ton box is just outside the door and covered with a tarp held in place by elastic rope. When I take off the tarp the wood is dry and clean and ~I just lay the bag on top and it is an easy fill. But for me the main advantage is that I am lifting the bag from waist height for most of the box so there is little strain on my back. If I had a basket or trolley it would take longer to fill and there would be more bending.

This video concentrates the mind somewhat. Amazing forces involved even with supposedly safer nylon rope instead of wire The Dozer driver ducked each time, I think I would want the cage above doing these experiments

Thanks for that Eddie, I would feel safe inside that structure!

I think that you might be arrested nowadays!

Now those are both good ideas but can you adjust the height of the yellow blade and does the rather wide V take more effort to split? Don't think I will need a mirror once I have some rails and a stop block

Thanks for the replies. The cable is very heavy and an inch in diameter. I think the Hyster has about 40,000 lb of pull on a bare drum. A likely scenario in the woods is if you are dragging out a tree and it somehow flips sideways and becomes lodged between two standing trees. I remember reading about a Royal Navy Frigate going at full speed towing a target with a long line. The target snagged on a bit of debris and the line snapped and flew back and decapitated two sailors. I think Eddie is right to go for plate rather than mesh. It need to come off when not winching so perhaps four bits of box section bolted to the floor sticking up about a foot to put three fences around the operator which can be slipped in and out easily., maybe a roof fence too. I suppose the other safety method is to hang some heavy material on the line to take the whip out should it snap. But I fear I may be misjudging the forces involved

Yes I feel a bit bad about that, I could still slab it or plank it but I just needed a really difficult piece with a few big knots to test out the system Now building the removable horizontal blade to quarter logs which has the advantage of raising or lowering using the bolt holes to suit the log I will weld four side plates, one on each side of the horizontal blade and there will be a countersunk bolt on one side going through to a thread tapped in the other side so there are no restrictions finally I will put a gusset on either side for belt and braces Ideally also it needs a pair of rails parallel to the knife firstly for the log to sit in and secondly for the dozer blade to run on Obviously there needs also to be a block to stop the track and prevent contact with the blade as I cannot see much from the driver’s seat. Does not need to be transported as all logs are brought back to the yard and it needs to be next to the Palax

I have just fitted a Hyster D7N winch to my cabless 1956 D7C Caterpillar. Does anyone have any experience of the forces involved in a cable snapping and the minimum amount of cage protection needed. I saw this video and thought that the mesh was not adequate but it seemed to be approved

Better photo of the blade

A problem has been building up for some time in the yard. Namely a whole lot of tree trunks that are far too big for the Palax processor which really only has a capacity of 10 inch diameter logs. I hate the work involved with chainsawing into lumps then hiring a big hydraulic splitter and picking up the resulting pieces either to be re split or thrown into a box. Being old and lazy I felt that there has to be an easier way I had some wear plates removed from the dozer blade when I fitted some new ones, so I welded two together and welded them vertically onto a length of H section girder. I dug a large hole with the excavator and put the girder and blade inside, then mixed well over a ton of concrete to leave just the blade sticking out about two feet. Sharpened the blade with a grinder and tried to push a two foot diameter log, with many large branch knots through it with the Matbro telehandler. The Matbro weighs about six tons and has a 100 hp four litre engine with a powerful ram on the boom. Very disappointing result even when I charged at the log, it would not look at it. So out comes Daisy Etta, about twenty tons of Caterpillar D7 with a 14 litre engine at 128hp not much more than the Matbro but a huge long stroke means a shed load of torque at low revs. I think maximum revs is around 750 rpm but a lot of torque at even 500rpm and of course the steel tracks to put the power onto the ground Well the old girl hardly even growled so next job is to fit a horizontal blade to split the trunks into four. This I think will work well for occasional use. I can then pick up the four lengths with the Matbro and take them to the log table to go onto the Palax. The main advantage is that there is no length limit to the log and I could have the Matbro standing with the grab on the far side of the blade and just cut with the chainsaw when there is a long enough length Oh yes, I have three old car tyres to go over the blade when not in use. We do not want any reversing accidents do we!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM7HlfrqHH4

I have found this one to be very useful, especially for cutting a load of smaller branches as well as a few larger ones. The price seems to vary a lot from the mid £thirties to £ seventies so you need to shop around Black Powder-Coated Saw Horse for Woodworking - WWW.MANOMANO.CO.UK IN STOCK: best prices on Black Powder-Coated Saw Horse for Woodworking - choose between 13 Saw horse Not the most brilliant demonstration here. Chainsaw could be a bit sharper and he needs to slot a length of 2"x 6" timber under the logs to prevent contact with the metal. Works well for me when placed over the wood box so you do not have to keep picking up the pieces and you are cutting a a comfortable height

Its only loggingical!

Bag arrived today and is perfect for my needs Used to take a bundle in my arms from the one ton potato box to the wicker basket and not only cover myself with dust and log debris but also only manage a quarter of what this carrier can carry. It lays quite flat in the big box and therefore can take slightly longer or awkward shaped pieces The coal scuttle has the branch loggings on the right, the new carrier in the middle and the wicker basket on the left I cannot emphasise enough the beauty of the loggings not only for starting a fire but for running smaller stoves. They last much longer than you think they will. They are mainly Ash and Sycamore loggings.

Yes that is the one I ordered and it is not quite as posh as the one on the American site, but I do not need a posh version!

It may be because my wife spends so much on Amazon that we are on Amazon Prime!

Just ordered of these from Amazon which seem good value at £9.99 on offer. Black Friday?? Need to carry logs from the one ton box sitting just outside a few yards to the stove. A barrow has a step to negotiate and a basket a narrow door, also I can place the bag in the box to fill more easily Perhaps you all have one of these already and I am just a bit slow in discovering these things! Firewood Log Carrier Waxed Canvas Wood Tote Bag WWW.AMAGABELI.COM Firewood Log Carrier Waxed Canvas Wood Tote Bag is Constructed from premium waxed canvas. 39" Long x 18" Wide, excellent size for carrying a few logs, firewood...

It certainly does work for 312, but you must insert the zero so 099 +990= 1089

My father found this little trick in the New Scientist magazine many years ago It works well if you write the answer on a piece of paper and hide it somewhere, in a book or drawer. It works better if you ask the victim to use their calculator as although it is simple maths for my generation, I am constantly amazed how many people cannot even do basic maths. Think of a three figure number. All numbers different and no zeros eg 123 reverse 321 and take the smaller from the larger. In this case the answer Is 198 reverse this number 891 and add it to the previous one 891+198= 1089 and 1089 is the number you will end up with every time The main thing not to do when you have amazed all with your psychic talents is to tell all that it works for any three numbers! Save it for Boxing Day perhaps with the family. Perhaps some wizard can explain why this always works? I noticed that the lass at our local garage had 1089 on her private number plate so I did the trick and I am now treated like a God whenever I go there! ps it works for four figures as well but the answer is 10890

Wonder how many bodies they found in it!