JamesWood

We do pretty much all our temporary fencing in the coppice using live trees as fence posts. But we tie a post to the tree using bailer twine. Then fence around it. Works really well but it is removed before it can do any real damage to the trees. Such good anchors especially in really rocky sites, really quick to setup..

Hi. I'm needing approximately 80t of wood moving 15miles from two sites in South Cumbria.. it's along a lane that's a bit too bendy for a artic but I think an 8 or 6 wheeler would be perfect. The yard it's destined for also can't accept an artic so bit stuck for allot of haulers round here. Anyone know somebody suitable? I know everyone's busy! Tried Alister Askew but he's far too busy and I have no luck yet getting in touch with D S Norman. Any ideas? Thanks James

Thanks for the replies. Looks like I'm going to arrange a free flow return into the hydraulic tank. Workshop manuals for the a60 can be obtained from www.MyHolder.de - MyHolder geht durch dick und dünn! WWW.MYHOLDER.DE MyHolder.de ist die Seite für Fans von Holder Traktoren und... In German!

Hi i have a igland 3000/2 winch electro hydraulicontrolsc. Just setting it up. Its an awkwards thing to get on due to its articulation but main issue is its top linkage is actually bent. 2"thick so gonna get it in the forge and straightened hopefully. also the previous owner mentioned the return hydraulics need to go direct to tank otherwise it damages the drums. is this true as was just hoping to use the standard connections but dont want to cause additional damage. Any tips appreciated. Its going on a holder a 60 turbo. Any experience out there? Even a manual or otherwise would be really uaefull. Heres a photo of bent top link; Thanks James

Looks like wych elm to me. Very similar to stuff i have milled before. Plenty of elm upto 15" in the woods we work. Any bigger and its DED. Smaller stuff we coppice and peel for the bark..

Hi, We may be able to do it depending on length.. Were going to be flat out busy in the woods after new year but may be able to squeeze it in depending on how much there is to do. Thanks James Leeds Coppice Workers | Sustainable woodland management in the Leeds Area [email protected] 07986292638

That saw sounds good, especially the conveyer.. However Chainsaw into the stack seems unbeatable on small diameter stuff. Using the top of the bar can easily chop through allot of pieces at once and take the stacks down in layers. Thanks again James

Hi We temporary fence nearly all our coupes, its easy / cheap.. We fence by using perimeter trees with stakes (cut from the coppice) in between. The wire fence is unrolled around the coupe and pulled tight by hand or using a bar around the tree for leverage. It is stapled into the posts and so held in tension. If the gap between two trees is too long the fence needs additional support of an intermediate post which is placed in between. There is no damage to these trees as posts are tied around these to stop the fencing wire making contact with the trees. Light gauge wire deer fencing is ideal. Each coupe only needs fencing for 2-3 years before the regrowth will be far out of deer's reach. Therefore only 2 coupe sizes of fencing are required to keep a coppice woodland protected. It usually takes 2 of us 1 day to fence an acre. This fencing wire itself should last quite a long time (15 years +). Plus this is a well tried and tested method in N lancs/ Cumbria/ Yorkshire and probably many other places. The advantage of the wire fencing as opposed to high tensile plastic is that it is easy to remove when all the bramble has grown through it. The plastic is quickly damaged after one or two uses and is therefore much more expensive in the long run. So an investment of 2 years fencing will keep each coppice coup deer free for the next 15 years at least. Cost wise one acre needs 250 m of fence so 2 years coppice coupe's is 500m or 5 rolls of 100m. Light gauge wire deer fencing is £170 for 100m. Therefore total cost for a coupe £425 or £850 total for 2 coupes on rotation. Hope that helps.. Might have some pictures somewhere too.. Good luck, no point cutting for product if your coppice is getting munched! James

Hi everyone, Just finished moving nearly all the wood, its maxed out the yard space. Would have liked to have processed it in the woods and moved the chopped and split logs but we were running upto some deadlines for the extraction. So definitely try and do this next season as that would certainly be more efficient. Its taken 15 days to move it all, 3 trips a day with the pickup and trailer. Hawthorn, ash, elm, hazel, birch, oak, holly, sycamore with some bits of spindle and field maple. Stack volume is roughly 280m3. Its in rows but close together as space was a major consideration, had to stack higher than we wanted too.. Just need to process it now.. Thanks for everyone's help! James Were in leeds by the way.. Anyone thats interested Leeds Coppice Workers | Sustainable woodland management in the Leeds AreaLeeds Coppice Workers | Sustainable woodland management in the Leeds Area Website still a work in progress.

Hi thanks for all the replies. Yes steep learning curve this. The pickup and trailer has done us well for years was just looking for advice on other more efficient methods. We have no other equipment apart from chainsaws. Yes were handling our logs loose into bulk bags for delivery. I would normally cut all the wood off the stack as this allows allot of lengths to be cut at once. Plus because most of it is small diameter it doesnt need to be split. Seems quicker than a japa processor i have used elsewhere on small diameter material. We are a copppicing business so firewood would ideally be a small part of our business as all our hazel products are far more lucrative in terms of work input. Ideally we would just be working coppice woodlands in good condition, unfortunately theres not much about here but lots of derelict stuff. However we are in the slow process of restoring allot of coppice in the area. This means that for the next 5-6 years there is going to be allot of awkward wood in non convenient sizes. We work with local community groups and have volunteer days in order to get as many people as possible out into the woods. This allows us to get coppice woods that are in no way profitable at the moment back into good management and actually be useful productive woodlands again. Anyway as a business model it is a work in progress but everyone's advice is very much appreciated. Lots to learn anyway! Thanks again James

Hi Thanks for all the advice. We need to get the wood 7 miles to our yard. The wood is in 4ft lengths due to the large variability in size within the coupe. All the logs have been cut to a size at which they can be lifted by one person. Also as anyone who has over stood hazel will know if we left it in say 8ft lengths they would be amazingly wonky and mostly airspace when stacked. Anyway as a new business were always working on improving methods and there is plenty of room for improvement! Options so far are Pickup + trailer, 2.7t per trip, 5 trips a day. Hand loading + unloading. 22 trips total, 5 days total with 2 people. Tractor + forwarding trailer, 10t per trip, 2-3 trips per day, 3 days total, hire costs for tractor, trailer +operator. Extract wood to roadside with pickup+ trailer then load onto artic by hand. Tractor + Grain trailer, difficult to load (high) Tractor + flatbed, hand load + unload, 18t per trip, 2 trips per day. There are 6 people in our coppicing group so labour is not a problem. Will get this all costed up tonight hopefully see whats good. Thanks again James

Hi We have been restoring neglected mixed coppice and have 100+t of small diameter material. This has been stacked up at the edge of the coupe by hand next to a ride to be extracted when ground conditions are good. Only problem is that its all mainly 4ft lengths. Im thinking that a grab arm will have problems with such a short length if we use a forwarding trailer? Or is it better to hand ball it onto a standard farm trailer (cheaper)? Sorry sure the answer will become obvious soon as we get doing it just looking to see if anyone had any experience moving lots of v short lengths? Thanks James