arb culture
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For what it's worth, I'm probably with Hama on this one. I'd never give a definitive recommendation based purely on a photo, but I'd say it's highly likely that I'd recommend this tree for removal if I was to visit the site, inspect the tree and chat to the owners.
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I think QTRA is not good, and I know several people who have done the training who found it very disappointing. Apparently the guy who does the training admits that he doesn't even understand the maths behind the system he is teaching - very worrying. Consider how much the training costs, and what other training you could do instead. If you haven't done it already, the LANTRA Professional Tree inspection course is usually taken as evidence of competence. The QTRA training is NOT evidence that you can inspect a tree (and from the reports I've seen, it's not even evidence that you understand QTRA). As to whether or not it's worth doing, ask your potential clients. At the end of the day, if one of my clients wanted me to do QTRA surveys, I'd get the training and do it. But my report would include some heavy conditions in it stating that I don't recommend the system.
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Be careful what you post. I wouldn't be happy to come across this if I was your boss. I'd suggest that if RPS are not keeping you busy it would be a good time to catch up on your reading and other CPD. This will put you in a much better position once you start to get busy again. By the way, I didn't know RPS had in house arb consultants - I know they have used independant consultants for quite a few jobs.
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There is considerable difference between one LPA and the next when it comes to trees. Whichever LPA it is though, your arb consultant should be able and willing to discuss your proposals with the LPA (assuming the LPA is also willing to discuss). At 12.5m from the tree the proposed garage doesn't sound like it should cause problems, but without seeing the proposals it is impossible to say - there are so many issues to consider, not just root protection. Have you approached your arb about this, and if so, what did they advise?
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Thanks for taking the effort to post that Tony.
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Thanks Matt, I was getting a bit confused. It all becomes clear now.
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Yes we should. But why is suggesting that someone shop around for a suitably capable person at a reasonable price not supportive? I doubt it's because you think that you are not capable, or that you think you charge an unreasonable price.
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Seriously Matt, you need to get someone out with the proper qualifications if you are intending to keep trees with obvious defects in areas which are 'frequently visited'. You need to check their qualifications and insurance as a minimum. Once you've obtained professional advice you should then follow their recommendations. Unless you think the advice is not good; then you should get a second opinion. Always make sure you are using someone suitably qualified - remember the Poll case. After your last post I'm a bit confused though as to whether or not you're doing this.
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Matt, I'd generally agree with the advice given on here about your trees but on the understanding that without seeing them first hand it is impossible to give any proper recommendations for action - you really should get them checked out by someone suitably qualified if you are going to retain them. My previous post wasn't meant to be obstructive I was just in a rush and I should have taken the time to make the point more carefully. I just wanted to remind people that if you have a legal responsibility for a tree you should never rely on recommendations given to you on an internet forum without first ensuring that you are sufficiently confident of their reliability. Also, I don't know many professional consultants who would be happy to diagnose and make recommendation for action on a tree without first seeing it first hand.
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crown reductions on beech with merrip, whats peoples thoughts
arb culture replied to John Shutler's topic in Tree health care
Where are these views posted? I can't find them. -
crown reductions on beech with merrip, whats peoples thoughts
arb culture replied to John Shutler's topic in Tree health care
I think a quick summary of the above posts would be: It depends on a lot of factors - take each case as it comes. -
crown reductions on beech with merrip, whats peoples thoughts
arb culture replied to John Shutler's topic in Tree health care
What about if you are working as a consultant for a developer and the beech with merrip is where they want to build a house? -
That's better
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And if someone is then squashed by one of the trees, who do they sue - you, your boss, the landowner, Hama (acting as your consultant)?
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The reason I think it's probably a waste of time is that the QTRA brigade will step in with their usual guff based on very limited training and an even more limited understanding of probability maths and how it should feed into a risk assessment. Eventually the discussion will end in the usual, 'go and do training in QTRA' or, 'there have been significant changes which only license holders can be know about', or someone will pop up and start getting personally abusive. None of which gets us anywhere. I long ago decided to leave the deluded and mis-educated risk quantifiers to get on with it. I suspect that one day one of them will end up in court and have a truely awful time - I just feel sad that the peddlers of this snake oil have been allowed to get away with it for so long.
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I doubt it, but you're welcome to try.
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Jose, I just realised I didn't answer your question. If I ever did charge by the day (which is unlikely) I'd charge between £200 and £500 a day depending on the work. I understand this is fairly normal for well qualified surveyors/consultants. Like I said before though, what would take me a day might take someone less experienced a week (or perhaps even more). And like Lee says, think about how you are going to present your findings, and how long this will take.
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Nice one Tony, that would be good.
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Thanks Monkey D. Do you know what the NTSG are now hoping to achieve and by when? They seem to be very behind schedule.
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To those who went, how did it go, did you learn anything the rest of us should know?
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There's still quite few in that part of the world unaffected. Unfortunately more and more are getting it.
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Bundle, that's a good question. I choose to charge more for jobs which come with increased levels of liability as I perceive it. This means that get fewer of these jobs, therefore the average levels of liability (over time) are brought more into line with the greater proportion of lower risk of liability jobs I do. I know of several consultants/surveyors who have had claims made against them. This rarely ends up in court, but it often includes insurance companies or bad publicity and can have implications for their future insurance cover or marketing. If I was still climbing I would certainly charge more for jobs which I perceived as dangerous (unless I thought they might be fun). I would get fewer of them this way, but that's fine, I'm happy to let someone else get them. And don't get me started on quantifying risks. There is so much nonesense in our industry on this subject that it's embarassing.
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In these competative times you can find very capable people who can do tree surveys at a very reasonable price. It really is worth shopping around and having a look at people's previous work. Make sure that whoever you choose will give you what you want, many won't - whatever their quals, experience, accreditations or pricing structure. A caution though, the idea of a day rate can be very misleading. Some surveyors will only get through about 50 trees a day, others will be closer to 250 or 300. The type of survey also influences costs. Everyone's pricing structure is different, but if I was to spend two weeks doing a 5837 survey that would be charged differently to two weeks doing a safety survey, or mortgage type surveys. This is mainly because of the different liabilities involved - I charge more where I feel there is a higher risk of a claim being made against me.
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Dean, I don't know if this helps but you could try giving Planning Aid a ring. I very much doubt that you would qualify for a free planning consultant, but they should still give you about 15 mins of help over the phone if you ask. When you ring you should be able to talk to a Chartered Planner who I'm sure can point you in the right direction regarding any planning issues. Good luck!
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I hope she's okay. Victims of serious abuse will sometimes avoid contact with their own family, even the family members who aren't responsible for the abuse. Well done to you and your mum for helping her, I'm sure that if she is genuine then, whatever happens to her now, she will always remember the kindness offered to her by strangers. Acts of kindness like this have been known to turn a person's life around.
