JonnyVine

Thanks Gary, I got there in the end

No worries Tony I also have to apologise to the TPO policy maker, typicaly I failed to read the initial post corrrectly as part of the order stipulated replanting, so the TPO would naturaly be carried forward onto the new sapling!!!!

Doc You are spot on about the Oil in Falklands waters, this was a well known fact even back in 82, why do you think the Argentinians risked all those menand aircraft? It wasn't for a few shabby rocks sticking out of the sea, but please consider this. What would you prefer, to pay a tenner a gallon for your fuel to the british Government, or twenty five quid a gallon to the Argies? Because thats what would happen, if they sold it to us at all! How far would your Defender go on a gallon of Diesel? It would be futile demonstrating outside the pumps then. And its the same with the coal, its still there, underground in the uk and will be when the Polish, south American etc coal has all been used, mines can be re-opened. Jonny

Like all fresh faces that come to a position of control, they generaly do good to begin with, but after a time they seem to lose the good intentions and focus more on their image and Ego than what will benefit those they are in charge of. Shame realy

Definitely not Gary, I used the term to describe the legislation as Iv'e had posts removed yesterday for aparently using "foul language" I printed an F and a D with four stars in the middle and someone called Shulter removed the post, so to prevent recurrence I am completely changing my terminology, I think its a piece of windbag legislation, its bonkers IMO. The TPO law, not the Arbtalk policy!!!!!!

Strange reply? I hope you don't think the "windbag" was aimed at you! Or anyone else.

This completely baffles my tiny mind, only a Local Authority could have such a Ridiculous decree! Windbag.

Like le Sang says, program your groundie, get a small canvas bag with a little bina attatched and hey presto, acropetal Evian, Buxton, tap water, whatever you prefer. To be realy swish, you could get one of those small fridges that plug into the fag lighter socket! These also double up as very impressive beer/cider chillers. Jonny

I think this is one of the most important thigs said so far, the wittering complaints of the hard-done-to, bone Idle brigade are ringing in my ears after reading that. If you do nothing, you get and deserve nothing!

Hi Egnsean I was connected to a small mining community at the time by my eldest sister living with a miner and when I visited her I made quite a number of friends who were miners, so I feel that I can speak with a reasonable ammount of authority. I could tell some stories (direct communication, not hearsay) that would be quite upsetting and are not for printing here. I think you have defended your belief quite well, but unfortunately such strong convictions do obscure clarity and a willingness to look at things from a diferent perspective, trust me on that Sean, I have more issues than you could live with. Yes, the miners did get treated appallingly, but a large amount of the maltreatment was unnecessarily brought on by the aggressive, violent stance of the barbaric NUM. This thread is/was about Margret Thatcher, how she treated the miners has had a good crack at the forum space, would it be too much to ask if we could move on to another aspect of her Pemiership? Please? Digressing slightly, if a similar thread were to emerge discussing Bliar, I would have to learn to upload photographs onto the forum, then I would spend a day out with my camera snapping Dog excrement. Jonny

Egnsean I'm afraid your living in the past mate, your still angry after 30 odd years and its that sam anger that was the cause of all the upset in the first place. The government pumped millions into mining communities all over the uk long before closing the mines, they set up re-training programs, the Enterprise allowance scheme (for people that wanted to start their own business) grants existed left right and centre, etc, etc and thousands of miners moved on and took advantage of the opportunity and prospered! Unfortunately there existed a small group that were not going to change at any cost, because that would have constituted "giving in". So they embark on a bullying spree, anyone susspected of giving in or accepting change had their windows smashed, their kids were beaten up at school, they couldn't use the local shops or boozer and the chant "SCAB, SCAB, SCAB" followed them where ever they went, there was a whole community victimised and living in fear of a small minority of stubborn hardmen, bullies! Jonny

Which I have just done and can not find the particular interview? I did find the one Steve refers to however. Whatever the truth behind the comment, the UK was in a terrible state of decline Jonny

I'm affraid your incorrect, I saw it with my own eyes on the News, not in the sun as you describe as I don't read newspapers. If anyone would like to read the truth then simply google it

Maybe, after Iv'e recovered

Arrrgh, I promised myself I woud not post on this thread but I am writing a boring report so need some escape. Getlemen, lets go back in time to the latter half of the 1970s, we had srike after strike, the three day week, power cuts every evening, British Leyland, Arthur Scargill, Red Robbo et al. The uk was divided, on one side were people that wanted to work and a pompous, arrogant, set in its ways management system that dated back to WW2, on the other were were a more modern breed of "socialist" worker that enjoyed idleness, the labour exchange and the power of its Union that was on the payroll of the USSR, rapidly evaporating the "Great" out of britain. Just a quick walk down memory lane would have been quite difficult in the summer 1978 as the council workers had been on strike for weeks and refuse was stacked sky high on every street reeking in the heat with rats everywhere (is this begining to sound a bit far fetched?), with the council being on strike, it also meant that the Crematorium workers were also at home and I can still see the 6 oclock newsreel showing coffins full of dead boddies on the streets of Liverpool that no one knew what to do with! The entire country was on its knees and the Prime Minister of the chaos was none other than Labour leader Jim Callaghan, now if you can imagine the foresaid newsreel footage going straight to an interview with Ol'e Jim who was caught emerging from a swimming pool and the famous line was a reply to a question from a reporter " Mr Callaghan what do you intend to do about the present crisis" and the curt reply spoke volumes, "Crisis, What Crisis?" and within weeks there was a General Election. I was too young to vote at the time but I remember thinking that I would have voted for Maggie if they'd have let me and perhaps the reason that no Labour supporters voted was because they were fed up with all the rubbish and dead boddies also. Anyway, we now had a Conservative government that hastily began to clean the place up, sell off the family silver (public companys) they defended the Falklands Islands, crushed all the unions, turned the uk into a police and military state (use of the SAS in the prison riots), truncheoned the striking miners on public television, closed all the mines and made the rich richer (those on benefits were also quite comfortable too) if you wanted work there was plenty and you could even buy your own council house at a very reduced rate, the old stuffy management was replaced by one that learned to invest in people and the UK was back on the map, allbeit with a large number of very unhappy militants with short memories or very little inteligence. 5 years later, when they came up for reelection I didn't vote, for me, politicians were just getting ever more self obsessed, arrogant and dictatorial, then just when it could not get any worse we get Tony "the war criminal" Bliar!

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Which suggests that a broader knowledge than park warden would be needed. The OP needs to sit and talk with the client and pound out the details, then form a brief, in writing, identifying any limitations which you both sign, then you can arrange the fee, simple!

This is a tricky answer now! If its only a small ammount of common pests and diseases then I agree with Gary, however there could be quite a number of different types including fungal colonization, ie K. deusta which can be difficult to spot, the client could come back at you at a later date! plus any reports to write. If you are happy, try him @£200 to gain the experience, if he turns you down, walk!

Its still a consultants role that hes offering labourers pay for? I would tell him to keep his money, do not undervalue yourself!

Alistair Clearly you have built a succsessful arboicultural practice, that has no personal accident insurance? The proprietor remained on site whilst a reckless cowboy that is braking every rule in the book putting himself, one of his employees and members of the public in extreme danger? Figures asside, like you I am also struggling to believe how ANYONE could watch an injured man in extreme pain and do NOTHING? Let alone a groundie that works for this compassionate man that is so kind to his workers that he always acompanies them and leads by example??????? If I had an emplyee that behaved that way he would have had a good hiding before getting fired. I think you have a hard case here Alistair if you are going to persue it in court, I fail to understand how you are getting so much sympathy on here after you remained on site with this lunatic let alone getting involed in the process? These are all questions that will go against you in court as there are no profound answers Good luck and a speedy recovery Jonny

Rich Your right I missed that bit, what about the rest? Maybe I'm just not romantic enough, but anyone with more than 2 brain cells let alone the head of a successful company would have left that fiasco immediately because thats what it was, a FARCE, from begining to end

Naturaly I understand that Steve but I don't know anyone (legitimate) that would have got involved with a farce like what has been described, parking vans across a 60 mph road, felling a 20 meter Larch accross the caridgeway man just left at the roadside with a broken leg etc, this story unfolds like a situation comedy, subby climbers reaping 2k per week? I don't want to come over as insensitive as I am not and rather than get dissappointed with my questions the OP should be preparing himself because a defence counsel and the Judge is going to want those kind of answers too. Like Dave, I am not accusing, But I always get 4 when I add 2+2 together. Jonny

I struggle to understand what the head of a company turning over 120k per year is doing standing in the middle of a road manualy picking up timber while subbing for what clearly is a cowboy? Is no one else even slightly Suspicious?

Johny, I think what skyhuck is saying is not tantamount to opinion, he is merely pointing out something that does not add up, I had the same vibe when I read it myself, if its true, it is a terrible situation for the victim, however, personally there is a lot that does not ballance Jonny