yeah i know what you mean about mates rates. we're all farmers round here though so theres plenty of back scratching going on! ooh arr!
when i was doing a lot of plant hire work i used to do mates rates a fair bit but its too much hassle like you said. treework is something i'm just playing at so to do a few bits and bobs for the boys is as good for me as it is them at the moment its not about the money with them just the chance to do a bit elsewhere. If i could earn a living out of it then things may be different, but thats what the day job is for unfortunately.
i was mainly looking at if there was any opportunities in going in to arb yards and processing arb waste (i.e. not for the domestic customer) rather than actually taking trees down, as thats what you guys do day in day out. I suppose kind of like a real stripped down version of the guys that go in with beasts or while tree chippers, to produce chip. However, many people dont produce enough gear to warrant making and selling chip, hence they look to firewood.
i thought get a decent enough set up and i could go to them offering a m3 rate, which from a business point of view would be more appealing than an hourly rate. they would then be able to work out their margin for selling on, plus i would know my production rates could cope as i would have got some decent kit on the go. risky for me i know, but if i was in their shoes i wouldnt pay someone an hourly rate to do something i could get a labourer to do with a cheap splitter and an axe when the work was quiet. at least you know you have Xm3 of timber in your yard which you can sell for £Y/m3 if split. If it costs you £Z/m3 to split it and you know it will be done in one hit, or at least quickly (as me the log splitting contractor extraordinaire, for example, would be going flat out to make it pay) then its less risk for you as the end retailer.
what you reckon?
PS all this assumes Y is greater than Z