Sub contracting for company owners.

[adbat234]

Thankyou Mesterh, you came in with a direct answer and seem non judgmental. I only wish tonights thread was a PM to you instead of all this.

[ukminch]

Well you only got round to asking the question at 1107 about employers liability, and at 1200 you had an answer if you'd read it. Before 1107 it was a bit wishy washy......

 

On here you get better answers if you ask direct questions, i.e Legally do I need any insurance to get two of my mates to do a job for me in a forest? Then you'd have got a simple answer of yes you do, no need for any other information or justification

Edited October 2, 2009 by ukminch
Added a bit

[adbat234]

Am i an employer if i sub contract the work or are the workers self employed?

[ukminch]

In the circumstances you describe with the facts that you've given yes you are.

[adbat234]

Then it cant be done legally. So it wont be done. THE END. FFS

[adbat234]

Sorry, as i said im new to running a business so i wasn't the best at asking the question. In future i think i may PM people to gain knowledge in areas im unsure of. As for others...hmmm well.

[Rupe]

Sub contract means you get someoen else (often a tree company) to quote for the work that you have available and then you leave them to do it in there own time and on their insurance.

 

Getting blokes in to help is different. They woudl be self employed but you need to insure them as employees with liabilty insurance. The self employed bit is more of a tax issue, if they are wokign with you then you are the employer and need insurance.

[Rupe]

Then it cant be done legally. So it wont be done. THE END. FFS

 

DO you normally have someone workign with you when you do tree work?

[skyhuck]

You have missed the whole point, you DON'T need EL if you are "genuinely" subbing the work out, THEY DO!!

 

You do need EL if you allow ANYONE to assist you in your work.

[skyhuck]

You are helping to create the very situation about which you are complaining.

 

If you cut corners to under cut the competition, they are often left with no alternative but to also cut corners to survive. So the situation just gets worse.

 

Are you paying tax and NI on the money you earn??

 

I have NO sympathy for the taxi driver, how dare he put other peoples livelihoods at risk for his own gain!!!!

 

IMHO, any one working without insurance should be ashamed of them selves, I have never and will never work without it.

 

If you can't afford to get insurance for high work, get cheaper insurance and only take on the work you have cover for.

Edited October 3, 2009 by skyhuck