Reward Fund for Coast Redwood Native Plant Habitat Damage / MD Vaden

[matelot]

Perhaps people visiting the trees is a good thing as it means they will lobby politicians to look after them more?

 

I've been to some amazing world wonders. Should I have been prevented going because my presence would have damaged them slightly?

[Adam M]

Looking to bump someone off innit.

[easy-lift guy]

The nature of fighting this problem is so unique to handle and explain. But I think I figured out another way to translate it a way arborists can understand.

 

Suppose 50 of you guys just got your saws stolen or business damaged in some way. Suppose the person who caused it didn't do anything illegal. Suppose they simply acquired the combinations or codes or password for all 50 of you folks and let a bunch of people know the means of access.

 

Wouldn't it be nice to reverse the damage? Sure.

 

What if the person could not be caused to withdraw what they did? Would it be worth knowing who they are, if there's a strong chance they have access enabling them to do this to all 50 of you again, or anybody else? Because its about 99% chance knowing the identity would expose how all of you lost your stuff.

 

Hope that helps explain to some degree.

 

I have read over this thread, reviewed the links. I really don't think what ever your attempting to accomplish means anything:confused1:

Maybe it's just me but based on some of the other responses maybe not.

The links I read seem more like spam. Your analogy that I quoted nearly makes as much sense as your request to donate money to accomplish what exactly I am not sure of. If you knew anything about the legal system in the UK and or how the police handle theft of property, you could have chosen another way to attempt to relate your point or cause.

easy-lift guy

[mdvaden]

Perhaps people visiting the trees is a good thing as it means they will lobby politicians to look after them more?

 

I've been to some amazing world wonders. Should I have been prevented going because my presence would have damaged them slightly?

 

Nothing hinders anybody from seeing any of the trees. The question you should answer is why should things already being well taken care of, be destroyed?

 

Should people be able to go in museums and cut and deface frames and artwork of masterpieces? Should people be able to etch their initials on any or every heiroglyph? Because those share a lot of similarity. Other than hours at a museum, many are available for people to view, or find. But not in a way that triggers damage.

 

If you feel that any and every extraordinary or rare thing should be degraded, then you agree with the people causing the damage. Because your comment sounds the same.

Edited January 23, 2016 by mdvaden

[mdvaden]

I have read over this thread, reviewed the links. I really don't think what ever your attempting to accomplish means anything:confused1:

 

Let me condense your reply.

 

It sounds like you believe the destruction of pristine coast redwood forest native plants is okay.

 

That's the most basic way to express your opinion.

 

It also sounds like you support illegal burl poaching, because that's related to the reward fund. A reward was used last time burl poaching escalated.

Edited January 23, 2016 by mdvaden

[easy-lift guy]

Nothing hinders anybody from seeing any of the trees.

 

The question you should answer is why should things already being well taken care of, be destroyed?

 

Should people be able to go in museums and cut and deface frames and artwork of masterpieces?

 

Should people be able to etch their initials on any or every heiroglyph?

 

If you feel that any and every extraordinary or rare thing should be degraded, then you agree with the people causing the damage. Because your comment sounds the same.

 

OK, So based on your response perhaps every natural wonder or museum should be better off closed to the public. Nothing short of that will insure the preservation of said items or locations into perpetuity. Unless your plan involves permanent incarceration of these persons shaming them into some sort of guilt complex may have the same result as pounding salt.

easy-lift guy

[mdvaden]

OK, So based on your response perhaps every natural wonder or museum should be better off closed to the public. Nothing short of that will insure the preservation of said items or locations into perpetuity. Unless your plan involves permanent incarceration of these persons shaming them into some sort of guilt complex may have the same result as pounding salt.

easy-lift guy

 

No.

 

Based off my response I stated they are open, and asked a question. You avoided answering some things about damage. The entire thread and links already denote that the redwoods are completely 100% open to the public.

 

Its worth noting that the people who triggered the damage are not hiding for no reason. One, already known ... their own family members oppose what was done and want no part in it.

Edited January 23, 2016 by mdvaden

[easy-lift guy]

Let me condense your reply.

 

It sounds like you believe the destruction of pristine coast redwood forest native plants is okay.

 

That's the most basic way to express your opinion.

 

It also sounds like you support illegal burl poaching, because that's related to the reward fund. A reward was used last time burl poaching escalated.

 

Tell you what. Condensing my reply may be right up there with assuming things you know nothing or less about. Try not to read to much into my opinion and or making claims that I support illegal burl poaching, what ever that is:confused1: I do not support the destruction of pretty much any eco system so please stop stating as much in your reply.

easy-lift guy

[mdvaden]

Tell you what. Condensing my reply may be right up there with assuming things you know nothing or less about. Try not to read to much into my opinion and or making claims that I support illegal burl poaching, what ever that is:confused1: I do not support the destruction of pretty much any eco system so please stop stating as much in your reply.

easy-lift guy

 

The fund can also be used for burl poaching.

 

Unless we quoted you wrong, it sounded like you questioned whether there is any merit in that, or if anything like that can be accomplished.

 

Burl poaching is part of the thread topic. And you wrote:

 

I really don't think what ever your attempting to accomplish means anything

 

Maybe you can clarify that more to fit why you think the fund has no merit.

Edited January 23, 2016 by mdvaden

[mdvaden]

Try not to read to much into my opinion and or making claims that I support illegal burl poaching, what ever that is I do not support the destruction of pretty much any eco system so please stop stating as much in your reply.

easy-lift guy

 

If you do not understand what burl poaching is, this is what it is ...

 

News Link > Burl Poaching in the Coast Redwood Forest

 

I reread your reply. And wondered how you could comment on something you did not fully know.