Edeldrid snap lock

[hamdogg]

Can anyone advise me whether these are longer accepted to be used on your side strop? As it's not 3way??

[hamdogg]

[Adam Bourne]

I still use my 2 way ISC snap gate mate, probably not advisable but I can't think of a single time it's ever come off!!

[Mark Bolam]

Same Adam.

My flip line is due for retirement though, I'll go 3-way then.

 

You're probably no stranger to that.

 

 

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[Adam Bourne]

Same Adam.

My flip line is due for retirement though, I'll go 3-way then.

 

You're probably no stranger to that.

 

 

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Plenty mate, 4's a little crowded, you start getting in each other's ways!!

[hamdogg]

Cause mine has just failed it's Loler! Because it's not 3 way?

[Treemoose]

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[hamdogg]

 

 

Doesn't answer the question

[Adam Bourne]

Doesn't answer the question

 

 

To be fair to your loler inspector he is well within reason to fail it. 2 way isn't used in our industry anymore, little similar to climbing on screw gates. The only way round it would be to get a 3way. IME they're just as easy to operate.

[Loler UK]

it's been covered before so a cheeky copy & paste:

the examiner has to assess whether the item is Fit For Purpose the application in this case is arboricultural climbing operations so lets set rigging aside.

 

the examiner has many resources at his disposal to form a decision on whether or not the item is FFP for this application, many of which nod has noted.

 

this decision can certainly be described as an opinion and ultimately the responsibility of the decision on the record lies with competent person.

 

My decision relating to 2-way HOOKS for this application differs to my decision in relation to 2-way 'twistlock' karabiners.

 

in certain theatre & circus rigging applications these 2-way hooks are regarded as a far safer method of attachment than a 3-way karabiner as it requires two synchronized, opposite opposing motions to open it as opposed to the single diagonal motion on a 3-way krab, i'm sure many of us have had one 'roll open' against a branch?

 

Many of these hooks are designed to click onto 'end bolts' of a set diameter which have a double nut stopper on the end to prevent them from sliding off naturally earning them the name 'clickers' in some industries

 

Ultimately the decision rests with the individual examiner if he/she is satisfied that the design of the connector is FFP they may 'Pass' it if not then they are entitled to 'Fail' it.

 

The fact that a 2-way hook is 2-way would certainly not lead me to fail it, i know of a firm that had every rope failed because it did not have a manufacturers marking on the outside of the rope, that company decided to some to us whom did not deem this necessary, perhaps you should look to change your examiner if your not happy?