towing 3,5t

[simonm]

Correct me if i am wrong...Driving a 3.5t Isuzu grafter and towing a 3.5t trailer within 33 mile of base, i DO NOT need a tacho or O licence...drive outside the 33 mile then i do...

[openspaceman]

Correct me if i am wrong...Driving a 3.5t Isuzu grafter and towing a 3.5t trailer within 33 mile of base, i DO NOT need a tacho or O licence...drive outside the 33 mile then i do...

 

It's 50km (31 miles) radius for the distance exemption, this may increase to 100km in March.

 

Trailer must be less than 1024kg unladen for the operator's licence exemption.

 

You can only carry tools and equipments for the job you are travelling to, not goods for delivery, for the exemption to need a tachograph to record drivers' hours

[ukminch]

Operators licence irrelevant for 3.5t gvw only needed when above this. Tacho not required within 50km if you meet the listed exemptions, which most tree workers will do

[openspaceman]

It's 50km (31 miles) radius for the distance exemption, this may increase to 100km in March.

 

Trailer must be less than 1024kg unladen for the operator's licence exemption.

 

You can only carry tools and equipments for the job you are travelling to, not goods for delivery, for the exemption to need a tachograph to record drivers' hours

 

I should have said 1020kg for the trailer unladen weight

[openspaceman]

Operators licence irrelevant for 3.5t gvw only needed when above this. Tacho not required within 50km if you meet the listed exemptions, which most tree workers will do

 

OP stated trailer and vehicle with gross train weight 3.5+3.5=7 tonne

[ukminch]

Yep so GVW is 3.5t, GTW or GCW is 7.0t. Hence rules apply to 3.5t gross vehicle weight,

No operators licence or cpc apply but tacho does as GCW is over 3.5t

[openspaceman]

Yep so GVW is 3.5t, GTW or GCW is 7.0t. Hence rules apply to 3.5t gross vehicle weight,

No operators licence or cpc apply but tacho does as GCW is over 3.5t

 

Not so as I understand it an operator's licence is necessary as soon as the maximum allowable mass of the combination exceeds 3.5 tonnes. The exception is as I stated or the towing vehicle is dual purpose, which a 3.5 tonne truck is not.

 

CPC generally has the same exemptions as the tachograph rules for carrying tools or equipment.

[ukminch]

Sorry I am actually wrong by the looks of it. The above info is still correct though about not needing ol for the above use, it's only if it's hire or reward you need one

[ukminch]

Providing it's not actually for hire and reward which the op doesn't specify

[openspaceman]

Providing it's not actually for hire and reward which the op doesn't specify

 

 

Yes your reply made me do a check and the qualifying statement fronm GV74 is:

 

"trailer exemption

 

 

A trailer with an unladen weight of less

than 1,020kg need not be taken into account

in the weight calculation for a vehicle pulling

a trailer. It therefore can be ignored for the

purposes of adding up total gross weights

or unladen weights to determine whether

they are above the threshold for requiring

an operator’s licence.

 

 

However, this exemption does not apply if

you are carrying other people’s goods for

hire or reward (e.g. working as a courier

or freight transport business). In such

circumstances, the weight calculation

must include any trailer attached

(irrespective of the trailer’s weight).

In this case, if the vehicle and trailer

combination exceeds 3.5 tonnes gross

plated weight or (where there is no plated

weight) an unladen weight of more than

1,525 kg) , a standard licence is required"