Stag beetles

[Phil71]

Morning all,

I've been asked to grind out an old stump that I'm pretty sure will have stag beetle grubs in it. As these are protected, is this against the law? I want to try and persuade the owners to keep the stump in place for habitat.

 

Cheers...Phil

[David Humphries]

The stag beetle is protected under the Wildlife

and Countryside Act 1981, as amended, and listed as a priority species for the UK and particularly in the London Biodiversity Action Plan.

 

Having said that my interpretation of the legislation is that its only protected from being collected & sold.

(this is from a 2000 English Nature doc, so may have been updated)

 

The habitat (or loss of) is what's specifically important.

If you can get the owners to agree to keeping it then that's the best scenario possible.

 

What makes you sure there is presence of the beetle in the stump?

 

 

 

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[David Humphries]

Some useful information....

 

http://www.lbp.org.uk/downloads/Publications/Management/stag_advice.pdf

 

 

 

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[sloth]

This taken from naturenet...

 

"Section 9 (of the wildlife and countryside act) prohibits the intentional killing, injuring or taking, the possession and the trade in wild animals listed in*Schedule 5*. In addition, places used for shelter and protection are safeguarded against intentional damage, destruction and obstruction and animals protected under the relevant part of Section 9 must not intentionally be disturbed whilst occupying those places."

 

...suggests it may well be an offence to grind out (destroy) a stump known to be used by stag beetles. Assuming they are listed under Schedule 5, which I think they are.

 

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[Phil71]

The stag beetle is protected under the Wildlife

and Countryside Act 1981, as amended, and listed as a priority species for the UK and particularly in the London Biodiversity Action Plan.

 

Having said that my interpretation of the legislation is that its only protected from being collected & sold.

(this is from a 2000 English Nature doc, so may have been updated)

 

The habitat (or loss of) is what's specifically important.

If you can get the owners to agree to keeping it then that's the best scenario possible.

 

What makes you sure there is presence of the beetle in the stump?

 

 

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They have seen Stag Beetles in the garden and this stump is prime Stag Beetle habitat. I presently have some grubs in a vase full of woodchip in my kitchen, not sure I can fit any more in! Going to try to persuade them to keep the stump, but it's in the middle of a flower bed next to the front drive, so quite visible.

[David Humphries]

! Going to try to persuade them to keep the stump, but it's in the middle of a flower bed next to the front drive, so quite visible.

 

Get them to stick a pot on top of it with some trailing plants.............vouloir

 

 

 

 

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[Phil71]

Yep, that's my usual line for stumps...stick a pot on top. Hopefully I can appeal to their better nature. I have already had this discussion with his wife about 18 months ago and she decided to leave it in. Feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall sometimes!

[Stubby]

I notice that nowhere in the act does it say that a Stag Beetle must not attack a person . I rescued one from a bucket of water and he drew blood from my finger !

[Python]

Are these proper "stag beetles"? or the much more common "lesser stag beetle"? As most customers I've dealt with wouldn't know the difference

 

 

http://www.forestflooronline.co.uk/

[Stubby]

Are these proper "stag beetles"? or the much more common "lesser stag beetle"? As most customers I've dealt with wouldn't know the difference

 

 

Forest Floor Reptiles Online

 

The bugger that had me was ! You could put saddle on it ! Bright sorta metalic plumb color and about 3,5 to 4 inches long .