both ends of your rope poll

[old snake]

I was taught to climb with both ends when i first started climbin 6 years ago,i climbed like that for a while until i took a lanyard up with me and realised how much easier it was!!!

To be honest unless im dissmantling i very rarely use my lanyard other than accent of the tree to start with?

[Will Ayers]

i use a long lanyard, about 9m so that i can have loads of movement and still have two good anchor points. it works really well and i hate having that loop in my line when i use both ends of my rope. sometimes when im right out on a limb or in an awkward position i'll use a work position strop to keep me there but with mainline and long lanyard i find i often dont need it.

[minty]

Mainline and a short line when needed.Grillion for work positioning.I have only used both ends on about 3 trees this year so far.

[swoollard]

I teach guys to climb at a college for ND and NC, but also for CS38 (with good results I might add!) Having watched newbies struggle with one end and a lanyard last year, I have introduced two ends. Some think of it as a bit old school, but for people learning to climb form scratch it is much easier and quicker. If they can't roll on to the limb or have their feet supported then they have to faff around bringing in the lanyard to the front d's to avoid hanging off their side D's. This can lead to confusion early on and essentially twice as many change overs needed. We introduce lanyards when they are more profficient, and I'm certainly not dismissing the technique-I used both when cimbing full time. We just show them all options and obviously the need for and various methods of two anchor points when cutting. Two ends is a viable technique, but in my opinion a bit heavy and cumbersome for working, but quicker for reaching top anchor. Remember, these new guys have to do everything to the letter of the law

[steph]

Hi There All,

 

Just popped in to introduce myself as im a new member......Hi!!

 

Having read the posts, i have to say im in complete agreement with Swoollard.

When i was being trained i was about both methods and found the both end method by far the most easier, now i have been climbing for sometime i have found that the lanyard method alot quicker and less fussy. but both have there pros and cons.

[Stephen Blair]

both ends or 2 ropes are fine in a big open crown without too many limbs, worthwhile spending the time to set up, but after seeing steves V set up with the hitch climber i wouldnt bother anymore.

[Rupe]

Don't forget that a V set up is NOT two seperate anchor points!

[Stephen Blair]

Don't forget that a V set up is NOT two seperate anchor points!

 

it is 2 anchor points with the same rope, if its the one i am thinking of rupe. is that right:confused1:

[Rupe]

Yes, your right, but don't think of it as two seperate anchor points in the same was as using two ends of your rope would be. If one anchor fails your in big trouble!!

[Stephen Blair]

Yes, your right, but don't think of it as two seperate anchor points in the same was as using two ends of your rope would be. If one anchor fails your in big trouble!!

 

so would you class it as twice as safe or twice as dodgy:confused1: