ART Positioner

[Tommy_B]

Looking for a bit of advice really.

 

One of my mates has given me an ART postioner. To cut a long story short, his boss sold it to him, he never used and and therefore sold it to me.

 

My question is this. I believe that its a 2004 model and it still has the small rubber rings on a zip tie attached to the ring. They have perished where they've not been used for a long time. Do I need these to operate it? I've set it up and had a play with it on the ground, and it works just like a Lockjack. I obviously want a bit of clarification before I take it to dangerous heights. The rubber rings are (as far as I can work out) only there to aid the cam locking onto the rope. If I'm putting weight into the system, do I need to get some more rubbers ( Behave!! ) or will it still be useable and pass a LOLER??

 

I can stick some pics up if it will help anyone, but I was hoping there would be a few guys on here that have and use one of these and could give me a bit of advice.

 

Cheers for reading.

 

Tom:001_smile:

[Paul Smith]

The positioner i got from Jonesie has not got any rubbers, in fact it hasn't got a ring? its just a disk with a swivel attachment and a guide for the rope.http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://www.gustharts.com/uploads/products/fullsize/Postitioner.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.gustharts.com/Products/Arborist%2520Equipment/Arborist%2520Climbing%2520Equipment/A.R.T.%2520Advanced%2520Ropeclimbing%2520Technology/Product/ART%2520Positioner/&usg=__lbWSM8ZoNzpAXcXFp5KCiHx_lgs=&h=300&w=300&sz=33&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=6V4Kr6UEqH_viM:&tbnh=116&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dart%2Bpositioner%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den-us%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

Edited April 25, 2009 by Paul Smith

[Tommy_B]

Couple of pictures.

[Tommy_B]

I think that your's is one of the newer ones mate.

[Rupe]

I had an old one like that and it worked fine without the rubbers. It makes it slower to respond but it still lock under pressure, and releases better. I actually prefered it without.

 

As for loler? I don't know, but I would doubt it would pass though.

 

Actually I do know, but its for your loler guy to decide.

[theyeti]

If you need rubbers, I use the sheep castrator rings from the local agri merchant. At 99p a box they are loads cheaper than the ART part and are exactly the same thing

[Tommy_B]

I had an old one like that and it worked fine without the rubbers. It makes it slower to respond but it still lock under pressure, and releases better. I actually prefered it without.

 

As for loler? I don't know, but I would doubt it would pass though.

 

Actually I do know, but its for your loler guy to decide.

 

Cheers Rupe. That was my thinking too!! I'll better give the LOLER man a ring and see what he says!!

[Tommy_B]

Am I right in thinking that the rubber rings attach to the metal loop that they are zip tied to in the pic?

[Rupe]

I think so, not got mine any more so cant say.

 

If your in any doubt about it then keep using the rope as in the picture and keep away from 11mm lines! And put a stopper knot in the end.

[Steve Bullman]

the rubber rings attach to the cam. i used to have the same system on my mark1 ropeguid and the rubber persished. i just replaced it with the newer style cam with the spring fitted instead. i suggest doing this....its only about £10 and probably needs replacing anyway