I'm too tired to think this through! m3 to tonne pricing.

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

  likeitorlumpit said:

If the buyer wants to pay £20 per tonne then you are getting

£20x5/6 per cu.m. = £16.67 per cu.m.

You have to cut/chip 1.2m3 to get £20

Hope that simplifies it - buyers can be tricky

 

  OnFootForestry said:

It's what I make it so to keep things simple £21t

 

Oh 'ell! Which is it then?!

[likeitorlumpit]

  TimberCutterDartmoor said:

Oh 'ell! Which is it then?!

 

£30 a tonne would give you £25 for every m3 you cut at that 1.2 conversion figure

[AlexB]

  TimberCutterDartmoor said:

Oh 'ell! Which is it then?!

 

I'm assuming you're talking in the round not chipped? It works out at £20.83per tonne with a blue book conversion factor of 1.2t-cube.

 

I'd then go for £21t as the buyer is being a bit of a pita....

[likeitorlumpit]

  TimberCutterDartmoor said:

Sorry in advance.

 

Scenario: You're buying standing (by the m3), harvesting and selling 1000m3 of larch for biomass and the buyer is paying £25/m3 for the stuff.

 

However the buyer wants to pay on tonnage at £20/tonne...

 

Seeing as larch in the blue book is 1.2m3 per tonne thus

 

25 x 0.8 = 20

 

so does that make no difference???

 

I am being profoundly thick I know

 

If your buyer is currently paying you £25 per m3 he should be paying you £30 per tonne if that is his preferred new method of payment. Work it through because otherwise you'll lose quite a bit of money on this new deal.

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

  likeitorlumpit said:

If your buyer is currently paying you £25 per m3 he should be paying you £30 per tonne if that is his preferred new method of payment. Work it through because otherwise you'll lose quite a bit of money on this new deal.

 

Understatement. Glad I did this thread, something didn't feel right but my grey matter was dead tonight. Thank you.

[likeitorlumpit]

  TimberCutterDartmoor said:

Understatement. Glad I did this thread, something didn't feel right but my grey matter was dead tonight. Thank you.

 

My pleasure- I'm like a dog with a bone when it comes to maths:001_smile:

[gensetsteve]

Are you working the metreage out as a solid cubic metre or air space taken on lorry because big straight sticks will still have at least 25% air space. 40 metres of space will give you 30 cubic metres or 30x1.2 = 36 tonnes. Or I could be completely off the mark and talking complete crap.

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

  gensetsteve said:

Are you working the metreage out as a solid cubic metre or air space taken on lorry because big straight sticks will still have at least 25% air space. 40 metres of space will give you 30 cubic metres or 30x1.2 = 36 tonnes. Or I could be completely off the mark and talking complete crap.

 

No, the head measures the metreage through it and a stack measure on the lorry x 0.7 for softwood - not the problem; but the biomass chipper and I were talking conversions to tonnage last night and I was in traffic trying to figure (hands free btw) out m3 to tonnes and he was agreeing with my cocked figures!

[gensetsteve]

  TimberCutterDartmoor said:

No, the head measures the metreage through it and a stack measure on the lorry x 0.7 for softwood - not the problem; but the biomass chipper and I were talking conversions to tonnage last night and I was in traffic trying to figure (hands free btw) out m3 to tonnes and he was agreeing with my cocked figures!

 

Its surprising how many people agree with your figures when wrong in their favour a bit more vocal when they are out of pocket. I only take simple conversations on the hands free like yes and no will be 30 mins etc. I dont quote verbal prices in case I get back to the office and find the 2k job is actually 4k

[Marko]

Using the figures provided

By the cubic meter you would get 1000 x £25 =£25k

By the tonne you would get 1000/1.2*£20 = £16.6k

 

You need to recalibrate him