Whoa lol

[Craobh]

is this what i was taught to he a "dog tooth" cut????

 

Also my current collegue worked in the US for a few years... Hes mentioned "bucking" im sure he said it is the same a ringing up a fallen/felled stem, not sure tho

 

Bucking buddy is cutting tree to length before yarding .....unless it yarded tree length

 

 

 

I'll try and get our eldest to send pics over as where I'm at there nothing really big enough to demonstrate on however if any you guys have somethiing then I'd be only to happy to demonstrate.

 

 

I'm not even remotely trying to patronize I first posted and was asked what such and such was so I replied.......I always put in the I don't advocte thing as well back stateside if you say something any someone does it and it goes wrong well ya get sued lol

 

 

I'd be more than happy to discuss cutting techniques I have cut east coast and west coast in Canada and a long time ago here. I don't mean to sound ott but I am used toputting a lot of timber on the ground in a day as I cut gypo .....nearest would be contract. We bid on stands to the main contractor and it goes from there. We at times have had a yarding crew up our behinds as we weren't quick enough.

 

 

We aren't yahoo's and don't take short cuts (well none I'm telling y'all about)

 

 

 

I'm not scared off at all I don't want to get in to an argument as it not necessary but I can and will defend what I can do.

 

 

I realize here that there are way more constraints than I'm used to and laws are different. I did stick my nose into a training course just to see what went on and I was a little shocked at the tech taught I would view it as ok for small non com stuff but I'd seriously have issues with it being used for large scale commercial. It really seemed so well more based on sorry to say weekend warriors.

 

 

 

I am fully aware there are very skilled tree guys over here and I'll be the first to respect them.

 

 

 

I'm will never say what I do is the best

[Spruce Pirate]

I think bucking translates as cross-cutting?

 

Bore cut to me is going in from the side when diameter exceeds bar length and working round. Leaving a bit of holding wood at the back I'd call and strap cut or a dog tooth more recently (and I agree, it seems too popular at the moment).

 

I think what you north americans call a sink I'd call a gub, but also called gob, face, notch, mouth - probably others depending on where you are.

 

Personally I'm not that keen on the Humbolt, but I'm not used to it as generally use the cuts I was first taught - I think a large part of it is how you were taught and what you're used to using.

 

Most felling here is done by machine here these days and most of the old cutters are now gone and have taken a lot of their skills with them. They've been replaced by NPTC units teaching a very limited skill set. I'd love to be able to get the time with a proper old cutter and get the benefit of their knowledge, but they're difficult to find these days. I'm not saying there's none left or that all modern cutters are unskilled, just that a lot of knowledge has been lost in this country. I think the US and Canada do a better job (currently) of passing down knowledge from one generation to the next. We are to concerned about paper trails and certification to learn this way here.

 

Keep posting Craobh, but maybe slow down a little, a lot of us seem to be struggling to keep up with the foreign lingo.

[Craobh]

I cut for saw, pulp and sometimes for veneer. If time is slack then for firewood which I am doing here for a friend at the moment. We will go back stateside as I am a duck out of water in my own country.

[Craobh]

I think bucking translates as cross-cutting?

 

Bore cut to me is going in from the side when diameter exceeds bar length and working round. Leaving a bit of holding wood at the back I'd call and strap cut or a dog tooth more recently (and I agree, it seems too popular at the moment).

 

I think what you north americans call a sink I'd call a gub, but also called gob, face, notch, mouth - probably others depending on where you are.

 

Personally I'm not that keen on the Humbolt, but I'm not used to it as generally use the cuts I was first taught - I think a large part of it is how you were taught and what you're used to using.

 

Most felling here is done by machine here these days and most of the old cutters are now gone and have taken a lot of their skills with them. They've been replaced by NPTC units teaching a very limited skill set. I'd love to be able to get the time with a proper old cutter and get the benefit of their knowledge, but they're difficult to find these days. I'm not saying there's none left or that all modern cutters are unskilled, just that a lot of knowledge has been lost in this country. I think the US and Canada do a better job (currently) of passing down knowledge from one generation to the next. We are to concerned about paper trails and certification to learn this way here.

 

Keep posting Craobh, but maybe slow down a little, a lot of us seem to be struggling to keep up with the foreign lingo.

 

Guys lol I am a SCOT lol just married to an American lol and live both sides of the pond lol. I am setting up a school on my return stateside to train fallers ......2 year course and all my friends will teach there and at there locations. there are a few legends left and I am sure I can coax them out as (yep being big headed here lol) they know I can walk the walk lol so they'll pass on their knowledge

 

 

as an after thought......the BC timber glutt is coming to an end so the lower 48 will have to pick the slack......Gas prices are rising so the machine boys are starting to feel it......some of their machines use 80 gals a day so hand falling will rise again .......not to the glory days but it will return

 

 

 

I'd love to take a guy from here back and school him then let him pass it on

[Stubby]

I get the lingo and find it interesting . I have to friends ( brothers ) who are fallers in Canada so I am used to the terminology . Bucking is as you say is cross cutting , hence bucking dawgs ( the spikes on the saw for biting in the bark ) ......

[Craobh]

I think bucking translates as cross-cutting?

 

Bore cut to me is going in from the side when diameter exceeds bar length and working round. Leaving a bit of holding wood at the back I'd call and strap cut or a dog tooth more recently (and I agree, it seems too popular at the moment).

 

I think what you north americans call a sink I'd call a gub, but also called gob, face, notch, mouth - probably others depending on where you are.

 

Personally I'm not that keen on the Humbolt, but I'm not used to it as generally use the cuts I was first taught - I think a large part of it is how you were taught and what you're used to using.

 

Most felling here is done by machine here these days and most of the old cutters are now gone and have taken a lot of their skills with them. They've been replaced by NPTC units teaching a very limited skill set. I'd love to be able to get the time with a proper old cutter and get the benefit of their knowledge, but they're difficult to find these days. I'm not saying there's none left or that all modern cutters are unskilled, just that a lot of knowledge has been lost in this country. I think the US and Canada do a better job (currently) of passing down knowledge from one generation to the next. We are to concerned about paper trails and certification to learn this way here.

 

Keep posting Craobh, but maybe slow down a little, a lot of us seem to be struggling to keep up with the foreign lingo.

 

I totally get what your saying bout the humbolt I only use it on really big stuff only really just to kep the fibre pull down and to stop the bull buck chewing my rear lol

 

 

oh and being a scot lol you say gob to me and I'll think ya mean the thing below my nose lol or ya want me to spit on the tree lmao ......so there a thing I learned it works two ways.

[Craobh]

I get the lingo and find it interesting . I have to friends ( brothers ) who are fallers in Canada so I am used to the terminology . Bucking is as you say is cross cutting , hence bucking dawgs ( the spikes on the saw for biting in the bark ) ......

 

lol ya spelled dawgs right lol

[Craobh]

Where in |Canada land buddy they in BC ? What they saying bout the timber glut?

[Rob D]

I'm not even remotely trying to patronize I first posted and was asked what such and such was so I replied.......

 

 

I know you're not trying to patronize - you clearly have a lot of experience and knowledge - what I was saying is that it was coming across a little like that....

 

 

 

Would be good if you had some pics, photos or vids to go with what your saying though as I'd like to see how some of these cuts are done.

 

 

 

 

[Craobh]

I know you're not trying to patronize - you clearly have a lot of experience and knowledge - what I was saying is that it was coming across a little like that....

 

 

 

Would be good if you had some pics, photos or vids to go with what your saying though as I'd like to see how some of these cuts are done.

 

 

 

 

I'll try and get our eldest to send pics over if she can find em .......There nothing here that is big enough for a swing or hard etc to work......however there is one bout 60' or so with rot in one side low down. It a school marm so either I'll drop it in two haves from springboards or split it and then fall out the rest. It only 48" across roughly but it perched on a creek bank and with a slight head lean. Should be interesting tho. The other two I can think of are again schoolies one is round 80' and 60" across the butt with one of the leaders lying way out so again should be interesting to fall without chairing. the last of interest I'll have to cut of springboards .......All the others are small (nothing above 50' or 24" across so don't think they'd be of much interest.) and are the firewood I'm cutting for a friend (they all alders which don't really pose much probs unless y'all wanna see benching over a creek (please no I allergic to getting my feet wet lol). I should get round to them in a few months