Using both ends of the rope

[Mick Stockbridge]

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Edited July 17, 2012 by Mick Stockbridge

[Andy Collins]

Hows about we have a nice little discussion on the topic "using both ends of the rope" and if anyone wishes to finish their education in the English language they can go find a different forum to abuse each other.

[john p]

anyway,i use both ends,always have,always will,just use common sense and dont drop big bits on to the loop

[treequip]

 

As for training him, isnt that what we all do as Primary's? He watches and asks what I'm doing and why, I then tell him/show him. So is that not in a sense training on the job.

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Well yes on the job training is a fine thing but training for work at height where an accident has the potential to be significant should be done in a controlled environment, i wouldn't want to be the one explaining to the HSE or a coroner how I had shown someone a new technique just prior to the accident.

 

That's also not the picture you painted in your first post

 

Also tried getting him on a HC but I think abit more

Persuasion is needed....

 

That dosent sound like him asking but it does sound like you intend to push the point.

[cheesmanator]

When people are using the other end as a Work strop, do you let it fall everytime you have finished then pull it back up when needed again? or is connected up with a prussic the whole time?

 

thats what I'm wondering, if its attached the whole time then you've got a massive loop to get it stuck on, around, between ETC....

 

And with safety in mind purely hypothetical, if one ever had to resuce a fellow with a said working system. If he had both ends installed and you wanted to lower him on his own system (nothing wrong with his rope or system) and then use his lanyard as a harness hang stopper. What happens when you get to the middle of the loop you have created.

 

Also having been attacked by vicious and terrifying squirrels, I think I'll always have my tail on the deck... coz those squirrels are quick as. And having to untie a bowline then pull it through blah blah blah, by that time i'm squirrel dinner.

[treequip]

Occasionally use the tail of my rope as an assist across a canopy but not for work positioning, I use a work positioning strop for that.

 

Back in the days of three strand using both ends would get your rope badly hocked up, modern ropes aren't as bad but still not good.

[cheesmanator]

Well yes on the job training is a fine thing but training for work at height where an accident has the potential to be significant should be done in a controlled environment, i wouldn't want to be the one explaining to the HSE or a coroner how I had shown someone a new technique just prior to the accident.

 

That's also not the picture you painted in your first post

 

 

 

That dosent sound like him asking but it does sound like you intend to push the point.

 

Really???? do i have to say everything we all know??

 

with something new, low and slow.

 

Seems like someone is teetering of flaming in the forums.

[treequip]

Really???? do i have to say everything we all know??

 

with something new, low and slow.

 

Seems like someone is teetering of flaming in the forums.

 

Low and slow is definately the way to go but my point is that in a work scenario that is seldom possible.

[Albedo]

I use the long end for tall trees and the short end for small trees....Is this wrong?

[cheesmanator]

Course it is possible, dependent on time and site conditions. How long does it take to setup a line over a low branch and ascend a few meters. Also we have big sturdy erm rafters??? cross beams??? not sure what there called but the wooden beams holding the roof up in a barn.... them thingymajigs... we have a line a friction saver set up for this exact reason. I'm always fidiling about with my stuff, seeing what works better and what doesnt.

 

 

 

What about those medium sized trees? Do you tie the long and short together to get the perfect size cordage...... TOP BANTER!!! LOVE IT!!!