could do with some help on these two id's

[Charlieh]

any help on the ID of these please, first one is some sort of holly but very odd looking, the 2nd is some sort of acer but its naturally regenerating a lot more prolifically that even sycamore does, the area surrounding the tree in the woodland is overrun with the stuff. Cheers Charlie

 

EDIT: is the first one holly leaved cherry?

[Giles Hill]

Portugal laurel and Norway maple.

 

Edit:

 

Might be wrong about the NM - it does naturalise and become invasive but the leaf doesn't look quite right.

Edited July 5, 2012 by Giles Hill

[Graham]

As before Prunus luscitanica and Acer platanoides.

[Charlieh]

ok i will accept the first one, but i have keyed out the 2nd and im getting cappadocian maple? which would explain the regen (suckering) and some of it being nearly tree sized.

 

That said im willing to stand corrected, but i dont think its norway the leaves arent right for it, and there were a lot like this so not a one off

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I would go cappadocium too.

 

and the decay shot is most likely K deusta!

[Graham]

cappadocium it is:thumbup1:

[RobArb]

Just seen this

 

First Prunus lusitanica, second defo Acer Cappadocian:biggrin:

 

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