Day rate for a groundie......

[James Cantle]

for that money i would stop climbing and work for any of you lot full time on that wage. that is full time right? although we should all be earning that much per day and believe me im not saying we should charge/pay less but each job will have to be priced at about 700-800 a day with 3 people truck chipper saws. who can honestly say they get that every day in order to pay a couple of groundies that much?

[18 stoner]

for that money i would stop climbing and work for any of you lot full time on that wage

 

Are you a good groundy though, or do you just have the tickets to do the job? Thats where the difference in wages comes in.

 

we should charge/pay less but each job will have to be priced at about 700-800 a day with 3 people truck chipper saws. who can honestly say they get that every day in order to pay a couple of groundies that much?

 

Ok, I'll put my neck on the line and say I do.

 

BUT, with a good crew, you may be amazed how much work gets put through in a day, and more importantly, how efficiently and safely it gets done too:thumbup1:

[skyhuck]

Dont assume a climber should be on more money than a groundy! A good groundy will be able to do anything on site, including being a good climber too if the need arises.

 

 

 

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But surely thats a climber, not a groundie.

Edited November 10, 2011 by skyhuck

[skyhuck]

Ok, I'll put my neck on the line and say I do.

 

BUT, with a good crew, you may be amazed how much work gets put through in a day, and more importantly, how efficiently and safely it gets done too:thumbup1:

 

But I thought you were not VAT registered, surely with that day rate your way over the threshold??????????????

[James Cantle]

i completely agree. ive been groundie/climber for over 6 years now so yeah im good. work 9-10 hours a day making sure trucks are empty and jobs are finished and left spotless. a good groundy is worth his weight in gold and every gang needs one but when it come to sending out a gang of 3 with a climbers wage of 150,groundies wage of 150 and another groundie of 150 thats 450 in wages alone. not to mention overheads. so all i was trying to out across was how many people send all that out who can afford that everyday? cause i no for a fact we can on the odd day but not everyday.

[18 stoner]

But surely thats a climber, not a groundie.

 

No, Good climbers climb well. Good groundies do everything well.

 

But I thought you were not VAT registered, surely with that day rate your way over the threshold??????????????

 

I dare say if I had a 3 man crew working 5 days a week I would be over the threashold. But I dont so Im not.

 

I know the reference was to working every day at that rate before you say it!

[James Cantle]

so rather than a self employed good all round groundy how much is the going rate for a full time employed with all ppe supplied and saws/fuel supplied groundie? just out of interest?

[18 stoner]

i completely agree. ive been groundie/climber for over 6 years now so yeah im good. work 9-10 hours a day making sure trucks are empty and jobs are finished and left spotless. a good groundy is worth his weight in gold and every gang needs one but when it come to sending out a gang of 3 with a climbers wage of 150,groundies wage of 150 and another groundie of 150 thats 450 in wages alone. not to mention overheads. so all i was trying to out across was how many people send all that out who can afford that everyday? cause i no for a fact we can on the odd day but not everyday.

 

Too right James. I have tried putting this point over before, but there seems to be a massive variation in what day rate a groundy should be on. I totally agree with that but its based on ability. A guy with tickets who can drag brash and use a chipper is worth much less than a guy who can organise site, liase with clients, do risk assessments, anticipate work procedure, plan job, operate everything on site, climb if needed, rescue etc etc.

 

Im not saying all "groundies" need to be in the "good" catagory, and most crews can get by with a couple of ok ones plus a good climber, but when a guy works on site that you can leave everything to he is worth rewarding IMO.

[James Cantle]

i think someone who can run a crew,hedge cut properly,climb well,tow and drive anything legally and dont bitch about logging is most defantly worth 150 all day long.

then all you need is five 16 year old draggers on 35 a day and dont mind sitting under a sheet in the back of the van and your preety much sorted!

[18 stoner]

i think someone who can run a crew,hedge cut properly,climb well,tow and drive anything legally and dont bitch about logging is most defantly worth 150 all day long.

then all you need is five 16 year old draggers on 35 a day and dont mind sitting under a sheet in the back of the van and your preety much sorted!

 

:congrats:

 

I think I went a long way round to explaing that, Cheers!