Tree ID practice

[MATTMOSS]

got it

 

should of known, its a Zelkova

 

You B85takd! should have got that earlier!

 

Good one Dalton

[RobArb]

"A" Zelkova?

 

Do you happen to know which one? If it is a Zelkova at all?

[MATTMOSS]

is it not zelkova carpinifolia, it must be?

[MATTMOSS]

is it not zelkova carpinifolia, it must be?

 

what am i saying

[clima]

Websites with scientific records for Tentsmuir say Zelkova serrata is present but dont mention other zelkovas .....hope someone gets this 100% right soon coz its intriguing ! the leaves dont look right though,a bit ragged ! (Not a technical term I know but its late...)

[daltontrees]

Oh dear! I had decided against Zelkova becvause teir leavesa re generally hard and the lobes are distinctly pointed. I had been leaning towards Nothofagus, but as RobArb says the bark isn't right.

I was with teh family that day and couldn't linger. I asked the Ranger what it was but he didn't know or much care. There were no information boards about it. There are 3 in a cluster beside the toilet block if anyone wants to look at them ever.

I have only this one more picture which I am posting in case it helps. If we can't pin it down I may contact the people who run the place. If they mention Z.s being present then maybe it is, even thought he leaves didn't look right to me.

[MATTMOSS]

This one has been a tough one and the leaves of Zelkova serrata and Notofagus obliqua are very close.

 

Looking at the bark and twig and from what i can see in the pictures I am going to say i think it is more likely to be a Nothofagus - possibly obliqua.

 

Final answer- Nothofagus obliqua

What u guys reckon?

 

God knows what I was on yesterday, i think stopping smoking sent me a bit strange

[daltontrees]

It is evidently a Nothofagus serrata x Zelkova obliqua cross! If it weren't for that bark I would be going with N. obliqua. Does that scientific website mention any Nothofagus in the area?

[clima]

Hi Dalton.....No it had listed lots of trees,plants,etc; but not nothofagus. I checked several of the survey listings and not mentioned. Thats not to say there isnt one there.....perhaps a surveyor had the same problem as us and couldnt put a name to it so quietly omitted it.! ha.

I would go with the leaves of nothofagus but the bark is different as previously pointed out.

Someone will post soon and state exactly what it is and it may be something completely different to expectation !! I will go with the hybrid theory !

[RobArb]

It is evidently a Nothofagus serrata x Zelkova obliqua cross! If it weren't for that bark I would be going with N. obliqua. Does that scientific website mention any Nothofagus in the area?

 

So whats the correct nomenclature for that then:lol: