What qualifies as a veteran tree.

[oslac]

The term ancient is not a relative age thing in itself but is based on a real time scale ie based on a human time scale and as such an ancient tree will be a tree which has grown since . . . well a long time ago. The oaks in Windsor Park are ancient because many are 800-1000 years old and some were planted when the castle was first built.

[RobArb]

by classifying trees this way though, trees of a "veteran" nature are overlooked (IMO) due to them not being pigeonholed in the ancient status because of their young age

[Gollum]

Now then Hama would this tree qualify as a veteran.

the crown is OK But the roots?

There isn't any soil under the main stem.

 

[oslac]

by classifying trees this way though, trees of a "veteran" nature are overlooked (IMO) due to them not being pigeonholed in the ancient status because of their young age

 

And they are also overlooked by the TPO legislation because they have the appearance of a dying and diseased tree. This is such a shame because they have almost made it to ancient status and chop.

 

I think the 'system' whatever that is, should be able to identify important veteran trees and give them protective status just because they are veteran.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Now then Hama would this tree qualify as a veteran.

the crown is OK But the roots?

There isn't any soil under the main stem.

 

 

not a veteran, but when it falls over and becomes a pheonix, yes!

[Gollum]

not a veteran, but when it falls over and becomes a pheonix, yes!

 

?

[Gollum]

Veteran or ancient.

This Horn beam is part of a hedge

 

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Veteran or ancient.

This Horn beam is part of a hedge

 

 

veteran

 

this is an ancient hornbeam:001_cool:

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

And they are also overlooked by the TPO legislation because they have the appearance of a dying and diseased tree. This is such a shame because they have almost made it to ancient status and chop.

 

I think the 'system' whatever that is, should be able to identify important veteran trees and give them protective status just because they are veteran.

 

 

agreed

[Paul Barton]

the bit where a birch of 100 years is a veteran. it is not it is an ancient and a young ancient.

 

where one cannot veteranise a tree, we can and do. in fact it happens to urban trees alot:thumbdown:

 

where a yew of 600 years is a vet? come on, 1000 years maybe!

 

But your earlier post said that all ancients have more veteran characteristics than you can shake a stick at:confused1: