What qualifies as a veteran tree.

[Gollum]

I would be interested in peoples views as to how a tree qualifies as a veteran tree.

Age near to the end of its healthy life?

What age should a particular species be?

Would large healthy tree qualify?

Would you say it has to have serious damage and infection?

Could there be a minimum diameter depending on species?

Looking to some interesting comments...

[felixthelogchopper]

Anything as old as you, Mark

[Gollum]

Anything as old as you, Mark

 

Really as old as that,

 

I was just waiting for that one.

[sean freeman]

I would think reading through the some of the relevant (freely available) documents here might be a good place to start Treework Environmental Practice - Press Releases and Publications

 

• Fay, N. (2007)

Defining Age and Surveying Veteran & Ancient Trees

A discussion paper on criteria for surveying veteran and ancient trees

 

• Fay, N & Rose, B. (2003)

The Importance of Surveying Veteran Trees: An emerging crisis in old tree populations

Proceedings of "Working & Walking in the Footsteps of Ghosts". International Conference, Sheffield Hallam University.

 

• Fay, N. & de Berker, N. (1997)

Level 1 (Introductory survey form) English Nature

 

• Fay, N. & de Berker, N. (1997)

The Specialist Survey Method

Level 2 & 3 - Veteran Trees Initiative, English Nature* ©.

 

• Fay, N. & de Berker, N. (2003)

The Evaluation of the Specialist Survey Method

for Veteran Tree Recording ©, English Nature Research Report Nº 529, English Nature* ©.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I would think reading through the some of the relevant (freely available) documents here might be a good place to start Treework Environmental Practice - Press Releases and Publications

 

• Fay, N. (2007)

Defining Age and Surveying Veteran & Ancient Trees

A discussion paper on criteria for surveying veteran and ancient trees

 

• Fay, N & Rose, B. (2003)

The Importance of Surveying Veteran Trees: An emerging crisis in old tree populations

Proceedings of "Working & Walking in the Footsteps of Ghosts". International Conference, Sheffield Hallam University.

 

• Fay, N. & de Berker, N. (1997)

Level 1 (Introductory survey form) English Nature

 

• Fay, N. & de Berker, N. (1997)

The Specialist Survey Method

Level 2 & 3 - Veteran Trees Initiative, English Nature* ©.

 

• Fay, N. & de Berker, N. (2003)

The Evaluation of the Specialist Survey Method

for Veteran Tree Recording ©, English Nature Research Report Nº 529, English Nature* ©.

 

thats pretty much what i would have said too!

 

But to summerise a veteran isa term adopted from "war veterans" scars (multiple) with decay are enough and can age a tree biologicaly and qualify it as a veteran.

 

The oaks within wistmans wood are true vets, biologicaly they are said to be 400 years old, but they dont grow big, but they have all the features of a tree of that age.

[Gollum]

I would think reading through the some of the relevant (freely available) documents here might be a good place to start Treework Environmental Practice - Press Releases and Publications

 

• Fay, N. (2007)

Defining Age and Surveying Veteran & Ancient Trees

A discussion paper on criteria for surveying veteran and ancient trees

 

• Fay, N & Rose, B. (2003)

The Importance of Surveying Veteran Trees: An emerging crisis in old tree populations

Proceedings of "Working & Walking in the Footsteps of Ghosts". International Conference, Sheffield Hallam University.

 

• Fay, N. & de Berker, N. (1997)

Level 1 (Introductory survey form) English Nature

 

• Fay, N. & de Berker, N. (1997)

The Specialist Survey Method

Level 2 & 3 - Veteran Trees Initiative, English Nature* ©.

 

• Fay, N. & de Berker, N. (2003)

The Evaluation of the Specialist Survey Method

for Veteran Tree Recording ©, English Nature Research Report Nº 529, English Nature* ©.

 

Thank you sean.

Very useful documents,

but the point of this thread was to find out peoples personal opinions,

for example an oak tree of say 100 years old with only natural dead wood in it. would somebody class this as a Veteran

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Thank you sean.

Very useful documents,

but the point of this thread was to find out peoples personal opinions,

for example an oak tree of say 100 years old with only natural dead wood in it. would somebody class this as a Veteran

 

NOT on your nelly

[Gollum]

NOT on your nelly

 

Is that referring to the oak

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Is that referring to the oak

 

yes, an oak of 100 years has barely reached puberty!

[Big J]

yes, an oak of 100 years has barely reached puberty!

 

Quercus pubescens...??

 

I'll get my coat