Submerged forest

[ScottF]

Great beach pictures and more proof of the super-toughness of oak. I might try to head down there next low tide. Just down the road from me.

 

Apparently, the foundations of the Roman fort walls in Holyhead are made out of massive oak "sleepers", ca 4th century. Still in excellent condition and holding the walls up admirably.

[RobArb]

Didn't know any arbtalkers where down that way, would said hi if I new:biggrin:

 

Do you know the beach then scott?

 

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[blazer]

I don't know if it's where the idea came from to soak ships Oak timbers in sea water for years before building, in Milford Haven (Pembroke Dock) & Portmouth there were large salting pools where timbers were soaked for years before construction, then the frames were left again for years untill planked up. On the land in the Scottish bogs there are plenty of Pine roots going back a long time, Once on a winter climbing trip we dragged some slush soaked roots out and they burnt ok on the bothy fire - work the effort.

[nooie]

Hello Pete, I don't know about dry rot here on the islands. I've seen some wood from an old school being renovated here which is 125 years old which seemed fine. Other parts were rotten just from where water was getting in..I will ask some joiner mates if they know of any..

[Fungus]

All over Europe, the Romans cut old oaks to build bridges, villa's and ships from the wood. They also felled the sacred oaks of the local tribes to demonstrate their ruling power and control.

Once they withdrew from the northwestern European territory, there was no original genetic material of Quercus robur (and Q. petrea) left, so all of our present "indigenous" oaks originate from Turkey or Spain.

 

Does anyone know, whether all old and veteran British and Irish Q. robur (and Q. petrea) are genetically identical and originating from trees from before the Roman invasion, or did the Romans succeed in "harvesting" all of the original British and Irish oaks too, even though they did not invade all of England and Ireland ?

[RobArb]

Interesting question

 

I'm sure the oak in sherwood forest is naturally british but would have to double check

 

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[slack ma girdle]

Most of the west Wales beaches have remains of peat and or trees. It just depends of the current/wave action to expose them.

[RobArb]

Would've been interesting to see the coastline a thousand years ago!

 

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[slack ma girdle]

Would've been interesting to see the coastline a thousand years ago!

 

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Big flat grasslands with wooded areas.

[RobArb]

Big flat grasslands with wooded areas.

 

 

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