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the spore print under is brown anyways

 

Which still needs to be proven on a piece of white or black paper and not on a (beech) leave or piece of wood, which is brown by itself.

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I believe this one of Nick's shots, confirms the brown spore.

So Ganoderma for sure.

 

 

Coupled with host, makes this a very good candidate for carnosum.

Ofcourse only microscopic work on the shape of the spore will determine between carnosum & lucidum for sure.

 

But I'm comfortable to list these shots as carnosum in the gallery.

 

 

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I believe this one of Nick's shots, confirms the brown spore. So Ganoderma for sure. Coupled with host, makes this a very good candidate for carnosum. Of course only microscopic work on the shape of the spore will determine between carnosum & lucidum for sure. But I'm comfortable to list these shots as carnosum in the gallery.

 

David,

:thumbup: on the sporee, you and Tony were right then :biggrin: , so even though with non-species specific annual FB's, convincingly speeking for Ganoderma !

But what is your opinion on both species being (long) stalked, as stated by both Breitenbach & Kränzlin and Ryvarden & Gilbertson, or should we regard and list these specimen as typical for G. carnosum on yew, its main host in the U.K. ?

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But what is your opinion on both species being (long) stalked, as stated by both Breitenbach & Kränzlin and Ryvarden & Gilbertson, or should we regard and list these specimen as typical for G. carnosum on yew, its main host in the U.K. ?

 

 

Gerrit, I don't have my Ryvardens volumes or Heinze Butin at home, only have yours, Collins, Phillips & Jordons at hand currently.

 

None of these references above have G. carnosum (valesiacum) listed.

 

So I can't really base an opinion on the stems due to my lack of readable data or even personal aqauintance with this species.

 

Just going with a (none scientific) gut instinct on this one. :001_smile:

 

 

Does Ryvarden give specific size ranges (for the length of stem) on the two species?

 

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Does Ryvarden give specific size ranges (for the length of stem) on the two species?

 

David,

- R & G only give size ranges for G. carnosum : 1-10 x 0.7-4 cm, so do B & K : G. carnosum 5-25 x 1-4 cm.

- Ellis & Ellis give size ranges for G. lucidum : up to 25 x 3 cm and for G. carnosum : up to 25 x 4 cm,

- Jülich for G. lucidum : 5-15-25 x 1-2.5 cm and for G. carnosum : 1-10.5 x 0.7-4 cm,

- Jahn for G. lucidum : up to 25 cm,

- Däncke for G. carnosum (and implicit for G. lucidum) : up to 8 x 2 cm,

- Phillips for G. lucidum : up to 24 x 1-3 cm,

- and Donk for G. lucidum : up to 20 cm.

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David,

- R & G only give size ranges for G. carnosum : 1-10 x 0.7-4 cm, so do B & K : G. carnosum 5-25 x 1-4 cm.

- Ellis & Ellis give size ranges for G. lucidum : up to 25 x 3 cm and for G. carnosum : up to 25 x 4 cm,

- Jülich for G. lucidum : 5-15-25 x 1-2.5 cm and for G. carnosum : 1-10.5 x 0.7-4 cm,

- Jahn for G. lucidum : up to 25 cm,

- Däncke for G. carnosum (and implicit for G. lucidum) : up to 8 x 2 cm,

- Phillips for G. lucidum : up to 24 x 1-3 cm,

- and Donk for G. lucidum : up to 20 cm.

 

 

 

Thanks Gerrit, a fair bit of variation from the authors there.

 

Based on specimens found & extent of maturity I guess.

 

 

 

 

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I would also be happy to go along with G. carnosum.

 

As for the stalked issues, as we learnt recently on occasions g. resinaceum is formed on a rudimentary stipe not disimilar to G. lucidum, so I would personaly be very cagey about cerntainty between these three.

 

But given host, this ones a lot less complicated than it could have been.

 

Baxter, could you take a cotton wool bud and swipe that spore print for us? place it in a small sealed bag and post it to me?

 

Very fine images, loving the scene context shot with the butt of the yew in clear.

 

For me from a body language point of view it appears to have a typical low white rot flare, and have never really looked at yews and several other trees because of the distinct lack of fruit bodies I find on them.

 

This week I have seen an Image of Gano sp on Sequoia and now yew, asides the usual suspects i mean. I will never take tree species for granted again.

 

Again the lesson is repeated, when it comes to the fungi, NEVER assume!

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