Can you spot a fake?

[liamjordan]

The 070 is no longer produced anywhere by Stihl AFAIK. It has been replaced by the MS 720 as of the end of 2008/start 2009. I would be interested to know why you think the saw is real or not, regardess of what it actually is.

umm i think your wrong there, still produced in some places - e-Catalogo STIHL (go to page 28-29)

[spudulike]

The 070 is no longer produced anywhere by Stihl AFAIK. It has been replaced by the MS 720 as of the end of 2008/start 2009. I would be interested to know why you think the saw is real or not, regardess of what it actually is.

 

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I was basing my judgement on the cooling fins looking as though they had been cleaned with caustic soda or similar - often new cylinders are almost white when new and not that dark grey oxide colour - the paint work also looked a bit less pro than Stihl usually produce.

 

Nothing more than that - shame you cant get Contra copies:thumbup1:

[WoodED]

The 070 is no longer produced anywhere by Stihl AFAIK. It has been replaced by the MS 720 as of the end of 2008/start 2009. I would be interested to know why you think the saw is real or not, regardess of what it actually is.

 

 

 

No it isn't. Don't know about any modern Stihl saw being "100% real Stihl" though as many of the components that are used in the German and US factories are made in China. Zama carbs etc

 

Drum roll...

 

The saw is a Chinese clone/fake/counterfeit. There are several 070 counterfeit versions, this is one of the more convincing ones.

 

Every now and then one of these will pop up on ebay or gumtree.

 

Here is some tips on how you can tell;

 

-Often the seller will say it was bought in the 1980s to prevent having to use the word IMPORT which buyers are generally weary of. However, as with all the 070 clones I have seen they have plastic nameplates on recoil and filter housing/engine shroud. Plastcic nameplates were only put on the saw from 1996 onwards.

-The plastic nameplate on the filter housing/engine shroud should have the registered trademark symbol after "STIHL", ®.

-As is often the case the font is not quite right. The "STIHL" label on the clutch cover should be more itallic and should also have a faint ® after it.

-The cylinder appears black. AFAIK the only cylinder supplier used for the 070 was MAHLE, who don't make cylinders that look like that.

-The tank gasket shouldn't be black AFAIK. Yellow or Green or Red (which is the replacement tank gasket colour if you buy one now).

-The oil tank/engine shroud/recoil starter/rear handle should be attached via slotted head bolts not allen bolts, especially not black ones!

-The muffler should be held to the cylinder by studs which are threaded into the cylinder and then silver/gold M6 lock nuts to hold the muffler on. Not the black allen bolts which appear to have been used in this clone.

-The kill switch should have a plate under it with two red arrows pointing backwards saying "Stop", instead of the red and black "On" and "Off" markings which appear to have been used above.

-The "box" under the the kill switch should look a lot slimmer and have a rubber cylindrical shaped covering for the kill wire. Not something with writing on which looks like an electrical relay.

-I deliberately didn't find a picture of the recoil side as it is normally the biggest giveaway. The nameplate on the cones does not even look close to the real thing and doesn't have the place of manufacture written on it like "Made in Germany" etc.

-The serial number would also likely be a big giveaway.

 

There are loads of these on Aliexpress, Alibaba etc.

e.g.

Wholesale Stihl 070 Chain saw with 36" SOLID GUIDE BAR + Free Shipping

 

They make convincing conterfeit copies of the MS250, MS380, MS381 and Husqvarna 365 Special also...

 

e-Catalogo STIHL

 

sorry to say your wrong butthey are still made for mexico

[Megatron]

That catalogue is out of date. The MS720 replaced it in the line up in 2009 so the 070 would have probably become NLA some time after that. I suppose it is possible it is still around but I don't see why it would be as the MS 720 is virtually identical.

 

But those who quoted the catalogue, are you saying you think the saw pictured in this thread is real?

[liamjordan]

That catalogue is out of date. The MS720 replaced it in the line up in 2009 so the 070 would have probably become NLA some time after that. I suppose it is possible it is still around but I don't see why it would be as the MS 720 is virtually identical.

 

But those who quoted the catalogue, are you saying you think the saw pictured in this thread is real?

no, just saying that it is still produced... or still produced in very recent years.

 

the saw pictured does look very similar to ours, the only differance that i can see is the stihl logo on the top cover

[WoodED]

id say its real, i think it is an unused import, but is there a serial nuber on it,, that would be the way to find out

[MattyF]

A lot more convincing than the ms44 so called copies ! NO worries why any one would 3

Want to run one unless a collector is beyond me??

[liamjordan]

A lot more convincing than the ms44 so called copies ! NO worries why any one would 3

Want to run one unless a collector is beyond me??

because its a bloody brillant saw! great for ripping through big hardwoods, these saws have wayyy more torque than the the modern higher revving ones, they are also built a lot stronger than modern saws

[Megatron]

the saw pictured does look very similar to ours, the only differance that i can see is the stihl logo on the top cover

 

Check out some of the other points I raised. Does it say "Made in Germany" or "Made in Brazil" on the recoil starter? A picture of your saw to compare would be nice.

 

id say its real, i think it is an unused import, but is there a serial nuber on it,, that would be the way to find out

 

It isn't real! Nor is the one in the Youtube video. This is just proof of how good the clones are getting. Go to Aliexpress or Alibaba and type in Stihl 070...

 

A serial number wouldn't really prove anything, as they copy everything else so why wouldn't copy that also? However, it is possible the serial number wouldn't tally with some of the saws features e.g.

press fitted oil line from machine number X 30 676 407, plastic nameplates from machine number X 33 878 645. Also it wouldn't suprise me if a lot of the clones have the same serial number...

[yewhunter18]

Been on Alibaba see what you mean you can buy anything at all at really low price but all rip offs and imports , ok the saws a fake but itl do the job of a real one ? Or would it not ?