Flue installation

[windfall]

This is illegal under the building regulations, did you get it signed off as being safe?, that is another legal requirement. I cant see anyone signing that off as being safe.

 

A towel or clothes coming into contact with the exposed pipe will ignite, if as a result the house burns down you will, if not signed off be in major trouble. You will be fined for the failure to sign off, ( one guy in Loughboro was fined 4,300 recently), your insurance company will also refuse to pay out. The guy from Loughboro lost his house and all his posessions and was fined on top.

 

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Erm i had it boxed in with cheap ply, building control signed the build off and i took the boxing out.

 

The inspector wanted it to be either boxed in or with a s/s type child gaurd all round it - floor to roof style. At the time i couldnt afford to have a gaurd made bodged it with ply, but it looks good now and i am not waisting the heat.

 

Thanks for adding some drama though.

[Alycidon]

Erm i had it boxed in with cheap ply, building control signed the build off and i took the boxing out.

 

The inspector wanted it to be either boxed in or with a s/s type child gaurd all round it - floor to roof style. At the time i couldnt afford to have a gaurd made bodged it with ply, but it looks good now and i am not waisting the heat.

 

Thanks for adding some drama though.

 

Sorry did not mean to be dramatic !!.

 

Stainless steel guard is available from Specflue, usually used in lofts to prevent clothes etc falling against it. Not sure if it fits all types of flue pipe as diameters vary. Your local Specflue distributer should be able to advise/supply, comes in two pre cut lengths, 1.7 and 2.4m from memory but might be wrong. Building regs state that flue pipe in upper rooms should be boxed in with non combustible materials, ply is combustible and therefore should not have been used or signed off. I suppose if the ply was a fair way from the pipe ( this would vary depending on the combustible clearance of the pipe used) then use of ply might have been accepted, even so its bad practise.

 

None the less you have had it signed off so keep that certificate safe as it arguably lets you off one area but your insurance may still refuse to pay out in the event of a fire. Cases are passed to loss adjusters whose task is to wriggle out of paying a claim. Don't give them any grounds at all to refuse to pay.

 

When you are able to afford it get it boxed in properly with a non combustible board, I would normally say plasterboard but I am not a builder so am unsure on its suitability for a bathroom. No doubt others will advise.

 

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[Riggerbear]

Hi all,

I having a nightmare at the moment trying to get the right info about my proposed flue and wondered if someone could put me right.

I live in a timberframed house built 5 years ago, can i run twin-skin stainless flue pipe through the timber framed wall at 45 degrees keeping all timber, plasterboard and rockwall etc at least 50mm away from pipe. One hetas guy says yes and the other (which i like better) has said the twin wall needs to run through a concrete sleeve set into the wall which means building a wall up against the plasterboard inside my living room to support the lower end of this sleeve with the other end set into the out concrete block skin of the house ?

[Alycidon]

Hi all,

I having a nightmare at the moment trying to get the right info about my proposed flue and wondered if someone could put me right.

I live in a timberframed house built 5 years ago, can i run twin-skin stainless flue pipe through the timber framed wall at 45 degrees keeping all timber, plasterboard and rockwall etc at least 50mm away from pipe. One hetas guy says yes and the other (which i like better) has said the twin wall needs to run through a concrete sleeve set into the wall which means building a wall up against the plasterboard inside my living room to support the lower end of this sleeve with the other end set into the out concrete block skin of the house ?

 

Use Poujoulat TI, it wants a MINIMUM 50mm from the outer wall to combustibles, you will need a 400mm fixed length through the wall, we dont usually use the TI sleeve but always use an eliptical cover plate over the pipe entry point, This plate is about 400mm square and makes the job nice and neat.

 

Poujoulat do a stainless steel sleeve for the job, cant see why you would want a concrete sleeve but your installer has the last say as he is the one that has to sign it off as being safe to use.

 

Recommend that you talk to Specflue who are one of the largest trade suppliers of flue pipe in the UK.

 

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[Riggerbear]

Thanks for the reply Alycidon.

[Fahrenheit]

We nearly always run the twin skin pipe down to the stove. Especially when going through single storey vaulted ceilings as the changover section is quite flimsy and it will buckle and leak water in after a strong wind.

[Alycidon]

We nearly always run the twin skin pipe down to the stove. Especially when going through single storey vaulted ceilings as the changover section is quite flimsy and it will buckle and leak water in after a strong wind.

 

Never done one otherwise, TI is a tough pipe but single wall off the stove is only 1.5mm usually. I just show the female side of the partnership how it looks and she always goes twin wall all the way. It just looks far better.

 

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