Loler for Arb kit

[Gollum]

The General requirements for a LOLER inspector are as follows.

Have practical experience in the use of the equipment he or she is inspecting

(at least five years commercially working with it),

and be qualified to use it.

Have theoretical knowledge of the equipment that they are inspecting.

Be able to condemn equipment without fear nor favour

and have evidence of this.

The above are the main criteria.

The NPTC certificate is not evidence on its own it acts as part of evidence.

If the inspector only holds the NPTC certificate in Thorough Examination of Arboricultural Equipment he/ she is not qualified to do so.

[Andy Collins]

LOLER covers everthing from lifts to tower cranes.

 

Surely no-one is stupid enough to think that being qualified to inspect in one industry covers every possible application?

 

Yet as a following post showed its happened at least once, and in the other thread Nick Potts mentioned another example, and outside of the forum the question arose to me, hence this thread. Stupid? maybe not, misinformed definitely. So I feel that maybe a better education to everyone is needed, and it appears that applies to large cmpanies as well as small.

[Steve Bullman]

I was asked by one of my clients to drop some kit in to a large nationwide hire company, who offer loler inspection services.

 

I included an old Marlow climbing line, with the (factory) eye splice hanging half out, clearly not fit for use.

 

They passed it, but failed a perfectly good harness because they couldn't find a SWL marked on it.

 

I certainly wouldn't trust them with my kit.

 

would this be the same splice that u pulled apart a day after it was loler'd, and they passed it a further time after that???

[Andy Collins]

The General requirements for a LOLER inspector are as follows.

Have practical experience in the use of the equipment he or she is inspecting

(at least five years commercially working with it),

and be qualified to use it.

Have theoretical knowledge of the equipment that they are inspecting.

Be able to condemn equipment without fear nor favour

and have evidence of this.

The above are the main criteria.

The NPTC certificate is not evidence on its own it acts as part of evidence.

If the inspector only holds the NPTC certificate in Thorough Examination of Arboricultural Equipment he/ she is not qualified to do so.

 

So what is the point of the certificate, and how does someone find ut if the general criteria are met?

[Gollum]

As per the photo I'm OK to check Arb equipment, I would presume other industries would be the same for their equipment.

I can't and wouldn't LOLER anything I didn't know anything about and I would hope it's the same all round.

 

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Justin were you told this was all you needed to inspect arb equipment ?

[Peter]

would this be the same splice that u pulled apart a day after it was loler'd, and they passed it a further time after that???

 

Same one, yes, but I didnt put it through again. It was more than half out when they inspected it.

[skyhuck]

The General requirements for a LOLER inspector are as follows.

Have practical experience in the use of the equipment he or she is inspecting

(at least five years commercially working with it),and be qualified to use it.

Have theoretical knowledge of the equipment that they are inspecting.

Be able to condemn equipment without fear nor favour

and have evidence of this.

The above are the main criteria.

The NPTC certificate is not evidence on its own it acts as part of evidence.

If the inspector only holds the NPTC certificate in Thorough Examination of Arboricultural Equipment he/ she is not qualified to do so.

 

:sneaky2:Thats interesting, as my first LOLER inspector was 19

 

Where are these requirement set out and by who??

[Gollum]

So what is the point of the certificate, and how does someone find ut if the general criteria are met?

 

The Certificate is good supporting evidence of competence.

[Andy Collins]

:sneaky2:Thats interesting, as my first LOLER inspector was 19

 

Where are these requirement set out and by who??

 

Does seem to be a few irregularities out there, doesnt there? So do you trust a spotty teenager checking your gear over a time-served industrial inspector with a wealth of experience and knowledge? Oh thats stupid, the 19yo has the right bit of paper.

[Gollum]

:sneaky2:Thats interesting, as my first LOLER inspector was 19

 

Where are these requirement set out and by who??

 

The requirements are set out in the ACOP, by the HSE