certified splices

[Jamie]

Alex that was my thought. A body offering a qualification in splicing competance (with minimal cost to those applying ).

 

How do you start up a governing body? NPTC / Lantra etc already have the clout. I don't believe its an ARB only matter, how many other applications are there for rope access / rigging.

 

So who has the time, finances and inclination to delve into the training world and start up a new CS unit?

 

Jamie

 

Oh and i know it wouldn't be a CS.

[Bundle 2]

Option 3

 

I think you are seeing this clearly Alex.

 

Under one unbrella w have the industry ( ignore manus for the moment)

 

Arb Industry (climbers & loler inspectors)

needs.....

 

Certification ( ie competence )

Accountability, ( certification? )

 

One qual covering splicing used in the work place...period

 

( this would necessitate an update to the loler inspectors quals...no big deal !! )

[Cleetus]

Hi all

 

I feel that a governing body would be a good solution. Anyone can splice, but is it safe? It takes a lot of splicing to be happy that what you are doing is right. I have had my splices tested by 2 manufacturs. If people are producing splices for others to use, they should be able to provide some sort of "Quality assurance" scheme, or proof of testing.

 

(thats my first thread over)

 

cheers

[Bundle 2]

hI cLeetus and welcome to arbtalk!!!

[carlos]

definatly seems to be a gap in the training/testing market. hope it changes,in the mean time ill continue trying to make expensive dog leashes out of arb rope!!!! thanks for the splice help jamie. thanks carlos

[tokaloch]

Wouldnt it be a logical step forward for the AA to lobbly on its members behalf for some kind of standardisation on traing/teaching/learning splicing. after all thats normally what associations do for members

[Jamie]

If training is the way forward (which it obviously seems like it is) it needs to be flexible enough to acknowledge and allow splicers to develop splices for specific applications. Knowing how to is only half the battle, understanding why is to me a more important part of the equation.

 

Jamie

[Ropey]

I agree but you can only train a person so much and certify them as competent. No two splices yield the same response if you put them trough destructive tests so there needs to be some flexibility in the result.

This could be as simple as stating that splicing or the splicer must achieve a finish splice break of not more than 15% of the original quote break?

This would then allow for "improvements" to the standard splice

[Jamie]

That goes without saying that there will be deviation from the mean in regards to break strengths. An average break strength encompasses minor discrepancies while still being accurate enough to factor in safe working limits.

 

I quite enjoy playing in this minefield of speculation

 

Jamie

[tokaloch]

To throw the cat among the pigeons, would training have to be given on all brands of rope as they wil all have different properties after being spliced