General Tree pics

[Taupotreeman]

My one day off for the week and I get called out to this. One substantial leader broken out of this Oak and landed on the corner of the house. Get there to find not only this but that a large limb over the road has a massive split in the union and also the union between the two main leaders has another huge crack running about 2 feet down it. To add insult to injury it's blowing a gale and once I'm up the tree above the cracks I can see them opening and closing beneath me. Took out the limb over the road along with half the tree that was moving most. Back on Tuesday to take out the rest of the tree once the wind has subsided a little.

[David Humphries]

My one day off for the week and I get called out to this. One substantial leader broken out of this Oak and landed on the corner of the house. Get there to find not only this but that a large limb over the road has a massive split in the union and also the union between the two main leaders has another huge crack running about 2 feet down it. To add insult to injury it's blowing a gale and once I'm up the tree above the cracks I can see them opening and closing beneath me. Took out the limb over the road along with half the tree that was moving most. Back on Tuesday to take out the rest of the tree once the wind has subsided a little.

 

 

 

That looked a head scratcher.

 

What species of Oak is it ?

 

 

Will it stay as a pollard or out & replaced ?

 

 

 

 

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[Taupotreeman]

Didn't take much notice to be honest David but the bulk around Turangi are scarlet or red Oaks so I'd hedge my bets on one or t'other.

 

Unlikely it will stay pollarded as the cracks were reasonably substantial and ran one to two feet down into the main stem; I'll hopefully get some photos on Tuesday. There's also one been removed next door so chances are it'll come out and be replaced with an Acer species. Council are trying to replace with a smaller growing species (due to constant issues with uplift of footpaths, roads and home owner complaints)while maintaining the town's colour.

[David Humphries]

Didn't take much notice to be honest David but the bulk around Turangi are scarlet or red Oaks so I'd hedge my bets on one or t'other.

 

Unlikely it will stay pollarded as the cracks were reasonably substantial and ran one to two feet down into the main stem; I'll hopefully get some photos on Tuesday. There's also one been removed next door so chances are it'll come out and be replaced with an Acer species. Council are trying to replace with a smaller growing species (due to constant issues with uplift of footpaths, roads and home owner complaints)while maintaining the town's colour.

 

 

Thanks for explanation.

 

 

I guess defect trees are generally not really seen as acceptable in the urban environment even if they are placed into a regular short pollard cycle.

 

would you think that's down to local conceptions of what a tree should be like in that environment (perfect & hazard free) or more about no desire for seeing trees in the urban context being part of the urban ecology cycle?

 

Bugs, bees, birds etc......

 

 

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[Taupotreeman]

Ha, I had to think about that one for a little while David but I'd say that the former more than anything. People have a percieved idea of how a tree should look and can't quite grasp the idea of a tree being left mainly for an ecosystem in its own right rather than for aesthetic value, if that makes sense. I'd imagine we could also have a problem with people thinking because it's possible to do this to one tree with no particular ill effects (pollarded) then we should be able to do it to all the street trees. Then it becomes a major argument of property owner's rights regarding light, shading views etc and then we broach the old argument of topping. Basically, we do it to one tree and then everyone thinks that they can have it done to their tree outside their house.

 

I have seen many trees left for bio diversity etc and having a back ground in coservation, would love to be able to do this in more of our parks and reserves i.e. the top snaps out of a tree, we just leave the tree (as long as it's safe) to its own devices. I can imagine the amount of hidey holes we could create for tree wetas but unfortunately we are still in the process of educating the council (and myself for that matter) in situations similar to this.

 

Having said all of the above, and being in a position to have quite a large say on how our parks, reserves and street trees are maintained etc, I'm always keen for the input of others in similar situations. We are trying to be a learning council when it comes to the trees so anything you can add is always appreciated.

[David Humphries]

Having said all of the above, and being in a position to have quite a large say on how our parks, reserves and street trees are maintained etc, I'm always keen for the input of others in similar situations. We are trying to be a learning council when it comes to the trees so anything you can add is always appreciated.

 

 

I guess this is where it needs to be.

 

People doing the job who care about how & what their work results are, in terms of maintaining trees in the public realm.

 

Keep on the good fight

 

 

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[hazzygawa]

Big bit of beech came down and is my back up for firewood. Cut a ring off 2 days ago, came back today to find this.

[Taupotreeman]

No sooner do we get the rubbish cleaned up from Sunday's call out then this one comes through. Busy day tomorrow me thinks.

[atree]

Nice,Going to climb it or MEWP it..?

[Taupotreeman]

Bit of both Adam. 15m MEWP booked for the morning to clear the stuff over the fence, garden and shrubs. Peel out the road side stuff in bigger lumps from within the tree and then assess the situation from there. The two halves are currently held together by two webbing tie down strops, one at about 20 feet and one slightly higher. Gonna be an interesting day tomorrow.