Whats these?

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

PS, gilled fungi? this is a pointer for the future! polyPORES have PORES, not gills.

 

always read the spore surface first, gilled, pored or maze like.

 

then move on to other features.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Oh and pholiotas are butt rotters, though a cavity former is really only an issue in very late stages. being red data means these are protected under section * of the wildlife act and also covered under uk BAP initiatives, well worth talking to kew or the BMS or both.

 

i will check out the list in a mo, as for the second fungi its hispidus, and in late stages can induce limb failures, a reduction of lever arms is the way to go.

[Mesterh]

Will be interested to find out what the first one definitely is.

 

Has anyone got a link to one of those mushroom key type ident list, ie you put in what type of gills, colour, cap shape etc. Not distracting from the AT directory just need some help in indenting stuff.

[scottythepinetree]

Oh and pholiotas are butt rotters, though a cavity former is really only an issue in very late stages. being red data means these are protected under section * of the wildlife act and also covered under uk BAP initiatives, well worth talking to kew or the BMS or both.

 

i will check out the list in a mo, as for the second fungi its hispidus, and in late stages can induce limb failures, a reduction of lever arms is the way to go.

 

Might seem a silly question, but is there a general rule of thumb as to telling when decay is in it's late stages without the use of decay detection equipment?

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Theres no real way other than diagnostics, a picus would pick it up at late stages on the poplars low in the butt as possible, the hispidus in ash, bit harder, try a thermo assesment as this will detect functionality within the entire structure and pick up the cool spots and early necroses.

[RobArb]

Sorry for no scale in the photos but the first one is about 10-11" across. Does this help or are you sure it's the pholiotas?

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I am 99.95% certain the are the poplar pholiotas.

 

I havent checked the list yet, but i am also prtty sure they are on it, but I (slim chance) could be wrong!

 

lol, where where these Pholiotas?

 

and the polar pholiota is a big shroom, so im not suprised at all, means they are well fed and lots of residual wood avaliable, dont panci but DO get the tree assesed and DO ensure they are not an endangered/threatened species. It is iligal to damge even the habitat of a protected species, so tree work would come under some (natural england) juristiction.

[RobArb]

they are next to a small (6" across about 15') grey/hybrid pop i took out about 5-6 weeks ago in a small pyracantha hedge/planter in a residential home gardens in liverpool. I went back to do another part of the job about 2-3 weeks ago and these had appeared about one foot away from the stump of the said pop. In the vicinity (5-10m away) are at least 8 largish (18"-20" across and about 40') pops that hang over the property walls over a v.busy main road. There are also pop suckers EVERYWHERE (one of the jobs was to get rid of all the suckers). I only ask coz i'm fighting a losing battle with my boss when it comes to things like this (as mentioned previously) and am also interested on the relationship between trees and fungus

 

Cheers hama for the help

[RobArb]

also found this today underneath a leylandii hedge (i really need a book haha) was about 3-4 inches across

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Thats a bolete of some description, im still mastering these so wouldnt like to hazard a guess which one

 

back to the pholiotas, there is another shroom that could look like these, the freckeld dapperling, but its scales are bumpy and triangular, i would not expect the pholiota to be on such young trees to be honest, the dapperling is harmless.